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Posts posted by carl 1010
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I am encouraged by what I saw out of Donnell today. Eli has a history of going to his TE quite a bit when he is going good. Ballard...Boss...Bennett... I hope Donnell continues along this path we saw today.
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For this loss is completely out of his/her mind. I have never seen such crap out of special teams. Never seen dropped balls like this. Just unreal! And such a good job by the refs too!
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No doubt burning the jersey is too extreme given Eli's accomplishments...but yeah, he's not making anyone around him any better. Eli has the ability to hold his own...but he does NOT have the ability to raise everyone else's play around him. That's the line, to me, that separates the really, really good from the hall of fame/elite.
This is so true, and so well said, but I also think that they aren't letting Eli be Eli in this system. He has played one way for 10 years, and now they are asking him to change.
I don't think he has elevated anyone's game this season so far, but we have all SEEN him do exactly that, durig playoff runs, when it counts the most. Just wish he would do it consistently, instead of in spurts..
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To be fair Eli never had the touch... the dude threw the ball and it was up to the receivers to catch it... The Manningham and Tyree throws were more lucky than good.
Having said that.. he's the best QB the Giants ever had and the best option we have now... and it's better to be lucky than good anyway.
I agree 100% on the Tyree play. Pure luck. It was a busted play and everyone involved on the Giants side of things got lucky. The Manningham play was not a busted play. It was just a case of Eli putting the ball EXACTLY where it had to be put, with a ridiculously small margin for error. He may not make that play a great percentage of the time, but he executed perfectly, as did Manningham. I don't call perfect execution "luck".
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If Eli gets hurt (more than a game or 2), the season is over, anyway. If that happens, I'd just as soon start Nassib and see what he has.
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Lucky bastard! Gets to make millions while wearing a baseball cap on Sundays and pretend he is the opposing QB during the week.
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I think the real answer is the fact that while Eli can make an occasional great throw, perfect arc, perfect velocity and touch...but more often his accuracy is suspect...and it always has been.
Remember the Plax years...throwing high to everyone.
LOL I actually didn't think of those years when responding. You are absolutely right though. Eli may not even still be the Giants QB if not for Plax. (Thats probably a big stretch). All Eli had to worry about was throwing it up, and Plax would go and get it.
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For now. I wrote in another thread that those reasons were an excuse this PAST year. Should they continue NEXT year...you're looking at back to back poor years with Eli being the common thread. That scenario would have us picking close to the top of the draft again and seriously thinking about making a play on a new franchise QB.
If it continues this season, there will probably be some games when the Giants are down big in the 4th quarter. Should that be the case, I would hope that instead of leaving Eli in there to try to mount an unlikely comeback, they should put Nassib in there and see exactly what they have in him, so they know whether or not they need to draft another QB.
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I hear what you're saying, Drizzle, and I guess you're right when you say that one year of that you could put on the WRs, but two years you have to think about it being on Eli too. What I keep coming back to is this... How can a guy have so much touch on his passes that he was able to put the ball EXACTLY where it had to be on that Manningham catch two years ago, and now he has the ball bouncing off people's hands? Did he suddenly forget how to throw the ball so that people can catch it? Is the ability to put "touch" on a pass something you lose so quickly? I would really like to see what he can do behind an OL with regular sized arms... one that can actually protect him, before I declare him on the decline.
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27 is the number I'm concerned with...as in the number of INTs Eli threw last year.
I attribute that more to NO O Line, not much of a running game, and his receivers not being able to hold onto the football. How many of them were off of his WRs' hands? If a ball hits you in the hands, you have to catch it! Yeah, Eli threw picks when he should have just eaten the ball, and he tried to force it in order to make a play, but if he had been successful on those plays, everyone would be singing his praises. Eli is one of the LAST people on this team that people should be worrying about, in my opinion.
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The only better job is being a 10 million dollar a year pitcher with a 7.35 ERA and 6-12 for the year, getting resigned for 3 years at 9.75 million per year when you're already 36 years old and have banked an average of 8 million per year for the last 12 years. Pitch about once a week during the summer. That describes about half of all the pitchers in MLB. Never seen an occupation pay so much for mediocrity. Heck - if you're good enough to sport a 15-5 record, you get signed to a 10 year contract worth 12- 14 million per year.
But you're right. Being a backup QB on a team while being paid well for getting a ringside seat every Sunday is a pretty sweet gig.
If you're left handed, you've got it made!
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I'd love to be the lucky SOB who wins the job as the backup to Eli! Show up to meetings, practice, and on game day look good in a baseball cap carrying a clipboard, and make millions!
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Best of luck to him. He left us with some great memories. I went to the celebration at Met Life after the 2nd time the Giants beat the Patriots, and he said "Yeah it's Met Life Stadium, but we all KNOW whose HOUSE this is!"
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Man look at this jewel, it needs a bump ........Nice call, dildo lips!!!
I forget. What was the score of that game again?
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to get all over A Roid any more! I had so many accounts deleted over there, it was unbelievable!
Next week is a must win
in New York Giants
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They BETTER win next weekend. I would be sick to my stomach if the season ended before autumn even got here!