Sephiroth Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 ...we're never getting our franchise QB, are we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 3 minutes ago, Sephiroth said: ...we're never getting our franchise QB, are we? giants are allowed to make trades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 What a shitty year to be bad lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 Once again, put in Cutlets for the rest of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 Wild. You can bench Eli but you can’t bench Daniel Jones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jranieli Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 I imagine Carolina is going to pick another QB and not sure about Trevor Lawrence in Jacksonville. The Jets are going to need another qb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 At least we have a star in Tracy. How much is he making what a steal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 Draft class as a whole is playing well. I agree though...time to start Tommy. And as much as I have been hesitant to criticize Daboll...I like him as a coach...the presnap penalties were ridiculous last night. The number of positive plays called back or the number of plays that were dead before they started were crazy. Despite the refs calling it tight, I think that falls on the coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 We're in draft no man's land again. Not enough QB's for the number of teams that are in the top 5 and top 10 of the draft, and we're not in a great position to land a QB, without a major trade at least. Still, it's possible one could slip through (e.g. Ewers, Milroe, Allar). Personally I wouldn't mind an Allar or Milroe (Milroe especially who's very raw), who could come in and sit a year or half the year behind Daniel Jones. Any of these guys not named Cameron Ward are going to be coming in needing a year or two before they're good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 Please not another year of Daniel Jones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted October 29 Author Share Posted October 29 28 minutes ago, mastershake said: We're in draft no man's land again. Not enough QB's for the number of teams that are in the top 5 and top 10 of the draft, and we're not in a great position to land a QB, without a major trade at least. Still, it's possible one could slip through (e.g. Ewers, Milroe, Allar). Personally I wouldn't mind an Allar or Milroe (Milroe especially who's very raw), who could come in and sit a year or half the year behind Daniel Jones. Any of these guys not named Cameron Ward are going to be coming in needing a year or two before they're good. 5 minutes ago, Mr. P said: Please not another year of Daniel Jones. Daniel Jones had better not be on this fucking roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 9 minutes ago, Mr. P said: Please not another year of Daniel Jones. Doesn't have to be DJ, it could be a year behind a guy like Minshew, Justin Fields, or Russell Wilson. Point being most of these QBs not named Cam Ward aren't going to be NFL ready next year. Milroe and Allar for instance are not NFL ready. Ewers I'm hesitant on because he's injury prone, but he'd be a good QB if healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jranieli Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 What is the hit dropping Jones after this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 2 minutes ago, jranieli said: What is the hit dropping Jones after this season? This indicates we would have a dead cap hit of $22M but would save just over $19M. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/29041/daniel-jones In other words, $41.6M cap hit if we keep him, $22.2M if we cut him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 11 minutes ago, mastershake said: This indicates we would have a dead cap hit of $22M but would save just over $19M. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/29041/daniel-jones In other words, $41.6M cap hit if we keep him, $22.2M if we cut him. https://overthecap.com/player/daniel-jones/7797 according to here if he’s a post June 1st cut we have just a 11mil cap hit with 30mil in savings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 3 minutes ago, Mr. P said: https://overthecap.com/player/daniel-jones/7797 according to here if he’s a post June 1st cut we have just a 11mil cap hit with 30mil in savings. Yeah, we'd have to hang on to him until them, past free agency, before seeing the cap savings though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 Of those 8 teams ahead of us only New England is set up to keep their QB. The rest could easily take a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 10 minutes ago, BlueInCanada said: Of those 8 teams ahead of us only New England is set up to keep their QB. The rest could easily take a QB. that’s why they should have been working on acquiring draft capital to use for trading up. any draft where we need a qb, but aren’t picking a qb, we need to be working to add future draft picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BronxRik Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 3 hours ago, jranieli said: I imagine Carolina is going to pick another QB and not sure about Trevor Lawrence in Jacksonville. The Jets are going to need another qb. New Orleans, Vegas, and Cleveland too. Are there that many top QB's in the '25 draft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jranieli Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 4 minutes ago, Mr. P said: that’s why they should have been working on acquiring draft capital to use for trading up. any draft where we need a qb, but aren’t picking a qb, we need to be working to add future draft picks. Yeah, by trading Slayton and/or Ojulari. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 1 hour ago, BronxRik said: New Orleans, Vegas, and Cleveland too. Are there that many top QB's in the '25 draft? We need Jameis Winston to crank it up the next 9 games, to make Cleveland a believer that he can be the guy (plus win games, so we improve our draft position). Real longshot, but would be nice if Spencer Rattler strings together enough games to trick NO into believing he can be the guy too, lol. Add TN to your list above though too. Very possible Jets might be in the mix too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 33 minutes ago, jranieli said: Yeah, by trading Slayton and/or Ojulari. thats a start. Should have traded down last year if we weren’t getting a qb. that’s why I don’t buy the “Schoen was forced by ownership to sign Jones” stuff. Every other move has also been made with “Jones is our qb” in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorBanksCarsonVanPelt Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 4 hours ago, Mr. P said: Wild. You can bench Eli but you can’t bench Daniel Jones. Plus, ruin his most played games record at that... we live in interesting times... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorBanksCarsonVanPelt Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 2 hours ago, Mr. P said: Please not another year of Daniel Jones. This... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorBanksCarsonVanPelt Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 2 hours ago, Sephiroth said: Daniel Jones had better not be on this fucking roster. Fist bump... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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