Herc Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 2 years 22 mil 20 guaranteed to the Vikings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Linval Joseph all over again. Fuckity fuck fuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Only two years? Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Wtf we couldn't afford that contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted March 16, 2021 Author Share Posted March 16, 2021 No, we had to address depth first I guess. Also I guess we’re keeping engram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Sephiroth said: Wtf we couldn't afford that contract? I was thinking similarly: So we're saying for the amount we signed Devonte Booker and Austin Johnson, ~$6mm as backups....we couldn't come up with like a 4 year $40mm contract that was backloaded, with a yr 1 cap hit of $8-9mm? Geez DG....what have you done with this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted March 16, 2021 Author Share Posted March 16, 2021 Cutting engram pays for both those guys yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 9 minutes ago, Herc said: Cutting engram pays for both those guys yesterday. Are we cutting Engram? Did I miss something? Also cutting Spencer Pulley and Levine Toilolo pays for those guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 By the way...this team still doesn't have an offensive line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted March 16, 2021 Author Share Posted March 16, 2021 9 minutes ago, mastershake said: Are we cutting Engram? Did I miss something? Also cutting Spencer Pulley and Levine Toilolo pays for those guys. No, you didn’t. I’m just saying if we cut him then we could have these two new guys and be right where we were cap-wise when yesterday started. Golladay seems like a pipe dream right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Herc said: No, you didn’t. I’m just saying if we cut him then we could have these two new guys and be right where we were cap-wise when yesterday started. Golladay seems like a pipe dream right now 6-10 next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 I'm going to assume this is all due to the game Williams and DG are having. We still haven't been able to lock down what the numbers of Williams contract are. Should of just let Williams walk to avoid a situation like this. The Giants are basically held hostage until a deal is signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 46 minutes ago, mastershake said: I was thinking similarly: So we're saying for the amount we signed Devonte Booker and Austin Johnson, ~$6mm as backups....we couldn't come up with like a 4 year $40mm contract that was backloaded, with a yr 1 cap hit of $8-9mm? Geez DG....what have you done with this team. Actually looking at the contract Tomlinson signed it's front loaded. Tomlinson is making 16 million fully guaranteed this season. I can see why he took the Vikings deal, he gets paid, plus gets to hit FA again in two years when the cap will be like 200 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Honestly, we could have drafted Barkley's backup in the 4th - 6th round for less than 1/3rd of the price of Booker ($3mm). Didn't need that. Also, +$2.9mm from Toilolo, +$2.75mm from Pulley. Add up these three moves, and that could have been Dalvin Tomlinson's contract. DG essentially chose Booker, Toilolo, and Pulley over Dalvin Tomlinson....(and over several other free agents I'd rather have on this roster). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Good for Tomlinson though, the Giants would of never been able to pay him 15+ million this year. Guy plays like one of the best, now he gets paid like one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 1 minute ago, BlueInCanada said: Actually looking at the contract Tomlinson signed it's front loaded. Tomlinson is making 16 million fully guaranteed this season. I can see why he took the Vikings deal, he gets paid, plus gets to hit FA again in two years when the cap will be like 200 million. Got it...I take back my post saying we could have afforded him, but I still think the money on Booker, Toilolo, Pulley, and Engram is better spent elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 1 minute ago, mastershake said: Got it...I take back my post saying we could have afforded him, but I still think the money on Booker, Toilolo, Pulley, and Engram is better spent elsewhere. Yeah Engram and Pulley I have no idea why they are still on the roster. Toilololooolol took the pay cut though so only reason why he's around and Booker is a solid signing IMO. I mean a late round RB doesn't work out as much as a proven guy who you know what your getting like Booker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 I can’t believe how utterly mismanaged this team is. Worst record in the last 4 or 5 years in all of the NFL and the team is completely broke and primed to be worse than 2020. I’m OK losing Tomlinson just because the team seems incapable of missing on DT picks but Jesus, how many 6-10 teams have gotten significantly WORSE as soon as free agency started? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted March 16, 2021 Author Share Posted March 16, 2021 26 minutes ago, mastershake said: Honestly, we could have drafted Barkley's backup in the 4th - 6th round for less than 1/3rd of the price of Booker ($3mm). Didn't need that. Also, +$2.9mm from Toilolo, +$2.75mm from Pulley. Add up these three moves, and that could have been Dalvin Tomlinson's contract. DG essentially chose Booker, Toilolo, and Pulley over Dalvin Tomlinson....(and over several other free agents I'd rather have on this roster). Agreed. Gettleman has a serious fucking problem with resource allocation to the rb position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 17 minutes ago, Storm said: I can’t believe how utterly mismanaged this team is. Worst record in the last 4 or 5 years in all of the NFL and the team is completely broke and primed to be worse than 2020. I’m OK losing Tomlinson just because the team seems incapable of missing on DT picks but Jesus, how many 6-10 teams have gotten significantly WORSE as soon as free agency started? Yeah it's interesting that we've been about as bad as the Jags, Jets, Dolphins (although they improved this year) in the last four years....yet they have tons of cap space and we have none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K3VIN Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Another season down the drain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 27 minutes ago, mastershake said: Yeah it's interesting that we've been about as bad as the Jags, Jets, Dolphins (although they improved this year) in the last four years....yet they have tons of cap space and we have none. To be fair though these teams did a proper tank/rebuild. Miami traded away all their starters two years ago, the Jags did the same thing last year. The Jets got rid of Adams and all their big contracts too. The Giants though keep trying to win whole rebuilding because it works so well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Spencer Pulley is not on the team. He is an unrestricted free agent. Last season in year 2 of 3 in his contract, they restructured and part of that restructure was getting rid of the 3rd year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Fun fact. Since 2007 only two second rounds picks have signed a second contact with the Giants. Shepard and Terrell Thomas The Giants just dont grow home talent lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 2 hours ago, mastershake said: Toilolo, Pulley, and Engram is better spent elsewhere. I'd pay 20 million to have those three off the team. They bring nothing to the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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