Storm Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 With essentially the same personnel and minimal injuries on his side, the defense went from pretty great to near the bottom in the league. I have never seen any consistency from Spags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 With essentially the same personnel and minimal injuries on his side, the defense went from pretty great to near the bottom in the league. I have never seen any consistency from Spags. They were on the field an awful lot, Storm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightFire Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Highest 3 and outs in the league. D always started well and then faded. My prediction is Shurmur with Spagnuolo staying as DC. I personally feel Spagnuolo would do well as HC but that's not going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 I'm not sure what to think of Shurmur. His reputation seems disproportionate to his success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 I'm not sure what to think of Shurmur. His reputation seems disproportionate to his success. I heard something really interesting on a podcast today... basically that for someone in the league for this long, he's more or less still a mystery. Yeah his offenses were pretty bad... but was that him or the fact that Mohammed Massoquoi is the best receiver on your team and Trent Williams is your best back... and your QB is Brandon Weeden? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 I'm not sure what to think of Shurmur. His reputation seems disproportionate to his success. I care little for a reputation that doesn't have the record to back it up. It looks like Shurmur's reputation is based entirely on this season with the Vikings and QB that has bounced around the league having an above average year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayD Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Yea Shurmur sucks. Hopefully the Pats get stomped out this weekend, and we can end the charade of pretending to want all these shitty coaches, and get Bill back home where he belongs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steitzenhaus Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Spagnuolo has presided over two of the worst defenses in NFL history. His tenure as head coach of the Rams was a disaster too. I'm not putting all of that on him. The Saints and Giants had bad personnel those years and the Rams were a mess at the time but you'd like to think his ability as a coach would shine through and make things a little better than they were. I've heard and read he runs a complex scheme so maybe that's why you see so many highs and lows. If it's clicking it looks awesome, like our '07 run and the last couple of months to close out last season but there's been a lot of really rough patches when you look at the entire body of work. I'm not against him staying but if he doesn't it won't bother me. He isn't Dick Lebeau or Wade Phillips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Lets not forget Dick Lebeaus turn as a head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virginia Giant Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Yeah, the shine is starting to wear off of Shurmur for me. Pretty uninspired by the crop of candidates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 I'd throw the house at Cowher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 I'd throw the house at Cowher. Since you've already thrown yourself at him numerous times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boohyah Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 I'd throw the house at Cowher. Dollhouse right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 I'd throw the house at Cowher. Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue25 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Part of the NFL being awful is awful coaching. The Titans just hired Mike Vrabel whos been a coordinator all but one year and in that year the Texans were dead last in points allowed. I know you all hate college, but thats where the best coaching is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Part of the NFL being awful is awful coaching. The Titans just hired Mike Vrabel whos been a coordinator all but one year and in that year the Texans were dead last in points allowed. I know you all hate college, but thats where the best coaching is As much as you say that, how hard is it to coach one team stacked with all the talent in the nation vs another that isnt? Then getting to a bowl game where you're only game plan is to fuck up less than the other team. (Actually maybe CFB is like the NFL lol) I mean how many times has a great college coach gone to the NFL and failed vs how much that have succeed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Part of the NFL being awful is awful coaching. The Titans just hired Mike Vrabel whos been a coordinator all but one year and in that year the Texans were dead last in points allowed. I know you all hate college, but thats where the best coaching is Yeah they were talking Vrabel up since week 1 this year and its ridiculous. He hasnt done anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakeMeSomeFoodHo Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Part of the NFL being awful is awful coaching. The Titans just hired Mike Vrabel whos been a coordinator all but one year and in that year the Texans were dead last in points allowed. I know you all hate college, but thats where the best coaching istake the best college players at each position, and the best college coach and have them play the browns..i assume the score of that game would be something like 134-0 Browns. I don't even think the college team would make a first down It's a different game, it needs to be coached differently. Can't compare them... Guy in Seattle learned that. And yes, college sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakeMeSomeFoodHo Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Yeah they were talking Vrabel up since week 1 this year and its ridiculous. He hasnt done anything.guess anyone who has only just played for the Patriots is a genius coach too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakeMeSomeFoodHo Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 I feel like the best football head coaches are coaching lifers..never players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virginia Giant Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 take the best college players at each position, and the best college coach and have them play the browns..i assume the score of that game would be something like 134-0 Browns. I don't even think the college team would make a first down It's a different game, it needs to be coached differently. Can't compare them... Guy in Seattle learned that. And yes, college sucks I dunno, you're talking about the entire first round of draft picks on one team. Give a guy like Nick Saban a summer to coach them and I think it's a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue25 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 As much as you say that, how hard is it to coach one team stacked with all the talent in the nation vs another that isnt? Then getting to a bowl game where you're only game plan is to fuck up less than the other team. (Actually maybe CFB is like the NFL lol) I mean how many times has a great college coach gone to the NFL and failed vs how much that have succeed? This is true college is about recruiting. I mean Alabama sucked before Saban because they werent getting top 100 guys like Saban has, heck Saban was 7-6 his first year at Bama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 This is true college is about recruiting. I mean Alabama sucked before Saban because they werent getting top 100 guys like Saban has, heck Saban was 7-6 his first year at Bama it's all about the benjamins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BronxRik Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 it's all about the benjamins Yeah, college needs a salary cap too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Really looking forward to shurmer vs the eagles twice a year. Hopefully hell do better with our roster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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