Virginia Giant Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 And we should have drafted Robert gallery in 2004. Don't over think it, draft Rosen. If the giants are high on another qb and feel they can trade down, okay, go for it, but while the potential for a bust exists, the likelihood of drafting Aaron Rodgers at 24 in two years is much lowerthan drafting our next franchise qb this year at two Hell, best case is of the qb we draft needs work he sits behind Eli a couple of seasons, it's probably going to be one at least anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 And we should have drafted Robert gallery in 2004. Don't over think it, draft Rosen. If the giants are high on another qb and feel they can trade down, okay, go for it, but while the potential for a bust exists, the likelihood of drafting Aaron Rodgers at 24 in two years is much lowerthan drafting our next franchise qb this year at two Hell, best case is of the qb we draft needs work he sits behind Eli a couple of seasons, it's probably going to be one at least anyway. Darnold and Rosen arent exactly cant miss type prospects in the mood of the 04 Class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 And we should have drafted Robert gallery in 2004. Don't over think it, draft Rosen. If the giants are high on another qb and feel they can trade down, okay, go for it, but while the potential for a bust exists, the likelihood of drafting Aaron Rodgers at 24 in two years is much lowerthan drafting our next franchise qb this year at two Hell, best case is of the qb we draft needs work he sits behind Eli a couple of seasons, it's probably going to be one at least anyway. I'd actually like to see the stats behind this, I mean there have been far and away more busts at QB in the top 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virginia Giant Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 I'd actually like to see the stats behind this, I mean there have been far and away more busts at QB in the top 10. I posted a breakdown of current starting qbs in another thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virginia Giant Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Darnold and Rosen arent exactly cant miss type prospects in the mood of the 04 Class. I wouldn't say at the time any of them were can't miss...Eli was probably the most highly regarded due to his lineage, but all of them had serious detractors...Phillips throwing style and school, Ben's school and I believe emotional stability. These guys are picked a part every year...Goff and Wentz were right to be the worst top qbs like ever. Done guys you just know, I think Jackson has bust written all over him, same with Mayfield...I'm not did on Darnold but I think Rosen is a blue chip prospect that would benefit from during behind Eli a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 I wouldn't say at the time any of them were can't miss...Eli was probably the most highly regarded due to his lineage, but all of them had serious detractors...Phillips throwing style and school, Ben's school and I believe emotional stability. These guys are picked a part every year...Goff and Wentz were right to be the worst top qbs like ever. Done guys you just know, I think Jackson has bust written all over him, same with Mayfield...I'm not did on Darnold but I think Rosen is a blue chip prospect that would benefit from during behind Eli a year. Rosen is good, but I worry about his health and durability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virginia Giant Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Rosen is good, but I worry about his health and durability. The concussions bother me a lot, I agree. Another reason I'd like him to sit a year, put some distance between the two this year and the next meaningful snap he takes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virginia Giant Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Jesus, sorry about the spelling, the Swype feature on my phone. I should proofread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted January 5, 2018 Author Share Posted January 5, 2018 Darnold and Rosen arent exactly cant miss type prospects in the mood of the 04 Class. How do they compare to Goff/Wentz? Besides its not like we havent had 1st round busts.... snd anyone can be a bust.... Drafting an OL would have made sense had Webb got some game time experience and the conclusion is hes the heir apparent to Eli.... but no the geniuses started Geno instead.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Rivers and roethlisberger were not considered cant miss by any means. Everybody had gallery fitz and Taylor ahead of them on big boards back then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 What if Rosen is our guy- would you trade up to insure we get him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virginia Giant Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Probably not. Still lots of options on the table at qb. Rosen is just my personal favorite, but there are two, maybe the others I wouldn't hate getting. Just wouldn't want to pass over Rosen for another player. But if the browns take Rosen, I think it gives us options to trade down a few spots and still take a quality qb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virginia Giant Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 How do they compare to Goff/Wentz? Besides its not like we havent had 1st round busts.... snd anyone can be a bust.... Drafting an OL would have made sense had Webb got some game time experience and the conclusion is hes the heir apparent to Eli.... but no the geniuses started Geno instead.... I think the top two are generally more highly regarded than Goff and Wentz were prior to the draft. If memory serves me, there was a lot of talk of if a qb would even be picked first. They were considered a lackluster class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakeMeSomeFoodHo Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Any possibility that Davis Webb is better than all the Qb's we can draft this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Ki Jing Carter was a force , a lot of the PSU RBs where forces. Ron Dayne didnt stop Melvin Gordon from being good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted January 5, 2018 Author Share Posted January 5, 2018 I think the top two are generally more highly regarded than Goff and Wentz were prior to the draft. If memory serves me, there was a lot of talk of if a qb would even be picked first. They were considered a lackluster class. That was my recollection as well... Wasn't too sure though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lughead Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Any possibility that Davis Webb is better than all the Qb's we can draft this year? I don't get the "WE NEED TO DRAFT A QB @2" either. Just because there was a mishandling by the coaching staff/front office then goes back further than spring training last year. That should not imply that the #2/franchise QB isn't on the team already. Granted the Giant OL drafts have gone the way of their LB drafts plug- and-play-a-scrub. I know this will sound contradictory to my last statement but, We need a running back that teams need to prep for. After the #2 pick we can go fill the trench and secondary. A solid line with Eli (and Webb waiting/learning as the #2 in the weeds) at the helm, OBJ,Engram,Sheppard and Barkley . That being said. Give Gettleman time to clean out the fridge so he knows what groceries to go shopping for. Reese did most of his shopping at the dollar store for far to long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 I don't get the "WE NEED TO DRAFT A QB @2" either. Just because there was a mishandling by the coaching staff/front office then goes back further than spring training last year. That should not imply that the #2/franchise QB isn't on the team already. Granted the Giant OL drafts have gone the way of their LB drafts plug- and-play-a-scrub. I know this will sound contradictory to my last statement but, We need a running back that teams need to prep for. After the #2 pick we can go fill the trench and secondary. A solid line with Eli (and Webb waiting/learning as the #2 in the weeds) at the helm, OBJ,Engram,Sheppard and Barkley . That being said. Give Gettleman time to clean out the fridge so he knows what groceries to go shopping for. Reese did most of his shopping at the dollar store for far to long. I said a similar thing after the 2003 season and feel that way now. Looking forward to not being surprised this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K3VIN Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 My guesse would be the know Webb, we always want to know becuse we are not in the in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakeMeSomeFoodHo Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 My guesse would be the know Webb, we always want to know becuse we are not in the in.I'm usually good at decrypting your posts, but you've stumped me with this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted January 5, 2018 Author Share Posted January 5, 2018 I don't get the "WE NEED TO DRAFT A QB @2" either. Just because there was a mishandling by the coaching staff/front office then goes back further than spring training last year. That should not imply that the #2/franchise QB isn't on the team already. Granted the Giant OL drafts have gone the way of their LB drafts plug- and-play-a-scrub. I know this will sound contradictory to my last statement but, We need a running back that teams need to prep for. After the #2 pick we can go fill the trench and secondary. A solid line with Eli (and Webb waiting/learning as the #2 in the weeds) at the helm, OBJ,Engram,Sheppard and Barkley . That being said. Give Gettleman time to clean out the fridge so he knows what groceries to go shopping for. Reese did most of his shopping at the dollar store for far to long. You know... given my man-love for Webb and the fact Eli has at least 2 years left... I'm beginning to soften my "QB @ #2" stance... If this Barkely guy is as good as Gurly, then all we need to shore up the OL and we're clicking again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K3VIN Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 I'm usually good at decrypting your posts, but you've stumped me with this one.Coaches know Webb isn't the answer. We still feel he is because we don't have inside access Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakeMeSomeFoodHo Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 And isn't Webb better than Mayfield? Mayfield got better, he also went to a better program for his talent. I don't know, if Webb went to another year of grad school, is it possible that we are talking about him being the best qb in this year's draft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakeMeSomeFoodHo Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Coaches know Webb isn't the answer. We still feel he is because we don't have inside accessthe Giants aren't exactly qb experts...and the staff evaluating him was incompetent. So who knows what Davis Webb is or could be. I don't trust the Reese regime in any aspect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Webb was a Giants 3rd round pick. He'll be out of the league in three more years. Happens to all of our 3rd rounders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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