Bigblue25 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 These contracts were done very well. The guarantees are high, but they can get out of Vernon's contract after two years if he busts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Holy shit... Please God!!!! :praying: :praying: :praying: Too injured. Pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 These contracts were done very well. The guarantees are high, but they can get out of Vernon's contract after two years if he busts Really? If that's the case it makes me feel a lot better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Too injured. Pass. Sounds like he has persistent shoulder issues, and wasn't a consistent tackler to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightFire Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Lamar miller to hou 4 years 26 mil 14 guaranteed. Osweiler is 4 years 72 37 The new Matt Flynn. The Broncos are in a really tough spot now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 They should go after Fitzpatrick. Jets are reeling having to deal with both him and wilkerson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue25 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Well Mike Garafolo Twitter @MikeGarafolo LB Keenan Robinson to the Giants. Done deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 They should go after Fitzpatrick. Jets are reeling having to deal with both him and wilkerson Jets should keep Wilkerson and trade their second round pick to the Giants for Nassib. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 I wish. If I were the jets or Broncos Id be calling Tampa about mike Glennon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Gipson going to Jags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted March 11, 2016 Author Share Posted March 11, 2016 Apparently Okung is visiting the giants tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Apparently Okung is visiting the giants tomorrow. Beat me to it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted March 11, 2016 Author Share Posted March 11, 2016 Ebenezer Samuel @ebenezersamuel 21s22 seconds ago Ebenezer Samuel Retweeted Jon Payton Giants have said Flowers is LT. It also doesn't make sense to move the franchise lineman. If signed, Okung likely RT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Kearse back to seattle. Sanu to atl. Jones to Detroit. Not a lot left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 If we manage to sign Okung (which I'm guessing will be like $9-12M/Year) then Treadwell and Elliot are both seriously in play come draft time unless by some miracle Jalen Ramsey falls to 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 If we manage to sign Okung (which I'm guessing will be like $9-12M/Year) then Treadwell and Elliot are both seriously in play come draft time unless by some miracle Jalen Ramsey falls to 10. Pretty much what I was thinking, though I can't rule out a DE in the 1st. We only have JPP on a 1-year deal, OO hasn't shown anything to prove he's a starter (I know, he's only had 1 season)...so there may be a distinct benefit to drafting a DE this year. Further, it alleviates JPP's salary next year should he not be resigned for 2017. It's awesome when you can use the draft to prepare yourselves in advance for when other players are about to hit free agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Pretty much what I was thinking, though I can't rule out a DE in the 1st. We only have JPP on a 1-year deal, OO hasn't shown anything to prove he's a starter (I know, he's only had 1 season)...so there may be a distinct benefit to drafting a DE this year. Further, it alleviates JPP's salary next year should he not be resigned for 2017. It's awesome when you can use the draft to prepare yourselves in advance for when other players are about to hit free agency. You can never rule out DE in the 1st with us. The deal with Okung is really gonna shape how we attack the draft imo, because there aren't many free agent OL I'd want starting for us anymore... unless we're comfortable going the Andre Smith route. For me it's really Okung or a high draft pick to pair up with Hart on the right side. As far as prepping for the future, we also have to start preparing at DT. This season is gonna be critical to get a good look at guys like Bromley since Hankins is a free agent next year. Maybe we look there in the draft too (Although I haven't paid any attention to DTs this year). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allstarjim Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Kearse back to seattle. Sanu to atl. Jones to Detroit. Not a lot left And Rishard Matthews to the Titans, Benjamin to the Chargers. Out of the guys that we all liked a lot they are pretty much all off the table. Who are you left with... well, there's Anquan Boldin... and... Rueben Randle. Here's pretty much all the other notable names out there: Jason Avant, Leonard Hankerson, Percy Harvin, Chris Givens, Andre Caldwell, Andre Holmes, Greg Jennings, Andre Johnson, Brandon Lafell, Ricardo Lockette, Keshawn Martin, Hakeem Nicks, Chris Owusu, Terrelle Pryor, Rod Streater, Brandon Tate, Mike Wallace, Nate Washington, and Roddy White. Out of those guys I like Streater, and of course Nicks (but you can't really count either on being the #2, can you?) Roddy White and Andre Johnson are both intriguing, but I would guess both of their skills have diminished too far to make them a desirable option to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 If we manage to sign Okung (which I'm guessing will be like $9-12M/Year) then Treadwell and Elliot are both seriously in play come draft time unless by some miracle Jalen Ramsey falls to 10. I think the Giant's are still thinking defense in the draft. I can't see Lawson passing the Giant's if he falls, he's to much of a JR pick. Elliot is interesting but MacAttack is a passing guy, he's picked up the bad habit from when McCarthy would throw the ball 55+ times a game. Treadwell doesnt impress me in the slightest, he just doesnt seem like anything more then a guy who outran the slowest guy on the field or his guy fell down, but I aint no NFL scout. This WR class is probably one of the weakest ones in a long time and I think the Giants are better off waiting till round two for WR help. Like I said I think the only way the Giant's pick offence this year is if Lawson/Ragland are off the board before they pick, then it just might be Elliot.... if he makes it past the Cowboys/Eagles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allstarjim Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 I think the Giant's are still thinking defense in the draft. I can't see Lawson passing the Giant's if he falls, he's to much of a JR pick. Elliot is interesting but MacAttack is a passing guy, he's picked up the bad habit from when McCarthy would throw the ball 55+ times a game. Treadwell doesnt impress me in the slightest, he just doesnt seem like anything more then a guy who outran the slowest guy on the field or his guy fell down, but I aint no NFL scout. This WR class is probably one of the weakest ones in a long time and I think the Giants are better off waiting till round two for WR help. Like I said I think the only way the Giant's pick offence this year is if Lawson/Ragland are off the board before they pick, then it just might be Elliot.... if he makes it past the Cowboys/Eagles. I don't even think Treadwell's a first rounder and maybe not even a second rounder. I wouldn't have him in my top 50 players and I would take both Josh Doctson and Michael Thomas over him without hesitation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allstarjim Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 I also think Giants will go defense, and specifically defensive end unless they love Jalen Ramsey or Hargreaves and they are there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Depending on how Okung works out, if Ronnie Stanley fell to 10, I wouldn't put that one past the Giants either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 And Rishard Matthews to the Titans, Benjamin to the Chargers. Out of the guys that we all liked a lot they are pretty much all off the table. Who are you left with... well, there's Anquan Boldin... and... Rueben Randle. Here's pretty much all the other notable names out there: Jason Avant, Leonard Hankerson, Percy Harvin, Chris Givens, Andre Caldwell, Andre Holmes, Greg Jennings, Andre Johnson, Brandon Lafell, Ricardo Lockette, Keshawn Martin, Hakeem Nicks, Chris Owusu, Terrelle Pryor, Rod Streater, Brandon Tate, Mike Wallace, Nate Washington, and Roddy White. Out of those guys I like Streater, and of course Nicks (but you can't really count either on being the #2, can you?) Roddy White and Andre Johnson are both intriguing, but I would guess both of their skills have diminished too far to make them a desirable option to start. I think both those guys are done. I'm with you on streater but I really don't love him either. I'd love nicks back but I'd feel better with him as depth not as an every down player. That whole list is depressing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 I don't even think Treadwell's a first rounder and maybe not even a second rounder. I wouldn't have him in my top 50 players and I would take both Josh Doctson and Michael Thomas over him without hesitation. I'd love Doctson in the second round, even the third if he's still around (doubt it though). The guy just catches everything around him, he'd be a starter in the slot day one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allstarjim Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 I think both those guys are done. I'm with you on streater but I really don't love him either. I'd love nicks back but I'd feel better with him as depth not as an every down player. That whole list is depressing Yeah it really is. However, and people may laugh, but we have some talent in the fold already that may reveal itself to be something special. I know we've gone over names like this in the past and nothing ever came of it, guys like Marcus Harris, Corey Washington, Ramses Barden, going back a ways to Jonathan Carter, Anthony Mix, or the unforgettable Duke Calhoun... but I wouldn't count out unheralded guys like Geremy Davis and Anthony Dable. My favorite is Davis, of course, because he's a pretty big target and incredibly strong, and seems like a nose to the grindstone kind of guy. I'm certain that the Giants will address the position at some point in the draft, also. But I hope it's not Treadwell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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