JMFP Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 http://www.upi.com/Sports_News/NFL/2016/03/02/Tom-Coughlin-still-has-hard-feelings-toward-New-York-Giants/4881456941043/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Don't worry. We have Ben McAdoo, and his offense is AWESOME against teams with bottom-ten defenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 To be fair though, if literally anyone in the world besides Jerry Palmieri were the conditioning coach, Coughlin would probably still have a job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Can't blame him. Everybody kept their job but him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMFP Posted March 3, 2016 Author Share Posted March 3, 2016 To be fair though, if literally anyone in the world besides Jerry Palmieri were the conditioning coach, Coughlin would probably still have a job. According to Reese, it had nothing to do with the untalented, soft, injury-prone players....it was this thing called "closing it out". Apparently, regardless of talent, if a team can "close out" a game, they get the Win. So, hopefully next year, the fans will chant "CLOSE. IT. OUT!!!" and then the Giants players will close out the game, and then they get a win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 I'd argue that we were overachieving by being in those late game spots to begin with. Were we really on the same level as the pats and panthers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightFire Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Most definitely over achieving. Those late game collapses were against much better teams. Doesn't excuse the loss but the Giants played way above expectations many times last year. That's why this whole off season has been a head scratcher and Coughlin should have a gripe with management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 I have no sympathy for Coughlin. This team has been terrible for 4 years now. There is not another coach in the league, other than Belicek, that would get that kind of rope. The Giants saved him the embarrassment of being fired and are still paying him for this year. Hard feelings? Come on, man, take a step back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 If you had hard feelings, why step down? This seems like a Dan Reeves move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA4M Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 What's done is done, but I'll miss the guy as Coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandolphScott Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 7-9, 6-10 and 6-10. Both Coughlin AND Reese should have been canned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA4M Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 I will never understand why fans can blame TC for the things that have gone down the last few years. who else could have made a team full of injuries like NY, a winning organization? plus the fact that the depth that came in was so average or below. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 I'm just saying you don't argue your case in the media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 I'm just saying you don't argue your case in the media. Who is? Coughlin isn't and he is about three months removed from the event. Do you think he gets invited on the show to talk about super bowl cooking recipes or about being a coach in the NFL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 I will never understand why fans can blame TC for the things that have gone down the last few years. who else could have made a team full of injuries like NY, a winning organization? plus the fact that the depth that came in was so average or below. Honestly, I've always said he was a great X's and O's guy, but when you have the same shitty conditioning staff that got you run out of Jacksonville due to injuries, and you're bottom-third of the league every year in that statistic, it's time for you to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Who is? Coughlin isn't and he is about three months removed from the event. Do you think he gets invited on the show to talk about super bowl cooking recipes or about being a coach in the NFL? "Don't think that there aren't some hard feelings there. There are," To me, that's unnecessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 "Don't think that there aren't some hard feelings there. There are," To me, that's unnecessary. How was the honesty unnecessary? He didn't throw anyone under the bus, that would have been unnecessary. Quite a few people have moved on from the team and had hard feelings about it and shared it with everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 we think differently about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Honestly, I've always said he was a great X's and O's guy, but when you have the same shitty conditioning staff that got you run out of Jacksonville due to injuries, and you're bottom-third of the league every year in that statistic, it's time for you to go. Yet, getting the football across the goalline from inside the 20 always eluded him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Not that I want to go all 'Dear Abby' today, but here is a little bit of unsolicited advice for former New York Giants head coach Tom Coughlin. Let it go, Tom. Coughlin is no longer head coach of the Giants. Rightly or wrongly, that is a fact. And we know from recent reports and Coughlin's own remarks on the radio that he is having a difficult time letting go. Gary Myers of the Daily News wrote that Coughlin's interview for the Philadelphia Eagles head coaching vacancy was "a disaster." Coughlin acted like a 20-year old whose girlfriend had dumped him and he was trying to make her jealous by dating her No. 1 enemy on the rebound. NFL sources say his hard feelings for the Giants came through loud and clear in the interview with the Eagles brain trust, which included owner Jeffrey Lurie, and he was obsessed with how he felt wronged by the Giants. He was not forthcoming about his plans for his staff. He came off more concerned with making the Giants look bad than being consumed with coaching the Eagles. I have no idea how true that is. I do know, however, that if any part of it is true that's a bad look for the two-time Super Bowl-winning coach. If even a small part of his motivation for taking the interview with the Eagles was to twist the knife and make the Giants think about him coaching in the same division just a couple of hours down the road, that's unbecoming for a man who has always carried himself with class. It is natural for Coughlin to be hurt. I get that. It's become pretty obvious that he wanted to continue coaching the Giants, that stepping down was not his idea. It doesn't look good, though, to go on the radio and talk about how he doesn't agree with the move and how there are "hard feelings" as the result of it. It also doesn't help anything that hard feelings and all, Coughlin apparently keeps showing up at the Giants headquarters a couple of times every week to work out. Who does that? That can't help new head coach Ben McAdoo, or any of of the assistant coaches still with the team who were loyal to him. It can't help any of the players who see him working out or wandering the halls. That is stalker stuff. It is the kind of thing jealous ex-husbands or lovers do when they can't move on. C'mon on, Tom. Get a Planet Fitness membership! It's only $10 a month. Surely, you can afford that. The Giants have moved on from you. Now you need to move on from them. It will be healthier for both of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Coughlin is not here as not only a result of overall record the past several years, but also HOW many of those losses in 2015 came. Agreed, should've canned Jerry at the same time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 To be fair though, if literally anyone in the world besides Jerry Palmieri were the conditioning coach, Coughlin would probably still have a job. Seph...there is an article in last weeks SI about the combine ...and who antiqued it is in what is measures.....that has a lot of commentary from the Head Trainer at Stanford....you should check it out if you get a chance....it notes how low the Cardinals injury level is...etc. etc... C. Wagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 To be fair Gary Myers and coughlin do not get along Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Coughlin should have been canned years ago... We, the FO, etc... were far more tolerant of him than we would have been otherwise because of the goodwill that 2 trophies earned him... but this was not 2011... I'm happy we moved on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Seph...there is an article in last weeks SI about the combine ...and who antiqued it is in what is measures.....that has a lot of commentary from the Head Trainer at Stanford....you should check it out if you get a chance....it notes how low the Cardinals injury level is...etc. etc... C. Wagon I have that at home but think it may have just gotten tossed. Housekeeping wife... gotta take the good with the bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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