Mr. P Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Was wondering what the snarky nickname would be for McAdoo if he fails McA Don't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gman329 Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 I guess this means we'll be a running team, because the last McAdoo I knew wouldn't pass to anybody! And when is the last time a new Offensive Coordinator DID NOT say he wants an "up tempo, attacking offense"? All we can do is hope for the best and wait & see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarence the Blue Puppet Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Dan Graziano @DanGrazianoESPN 2m Congrats to new OCs McAdoo, Reich, McVay, Lazor, who now get to be decried as idiots by thousands of people every Sunday. Graziano has to be the most negative guy on ESPN NY. All he does is trash every NY team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Graziano has to be the most negative guy on ESPN NY. All he does is trash every NY team. You have to admit though, Giants fans are pretty idiotic and ravenous at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishgutmartyr Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Kind of interesting that Flaherty is still here, considering the state of the oline. Most of our picks have been busts. McCants get cut and becomes a starter for the Raiders. Beatty fell off. And other than Pugh, the only other player he developed that played a reasonable level this year is Boothe. Maybe Cordle. Not that I think he's a bad coach, but based on the measuring stick for Pope and Ingram, I would have thought he would be gone, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Kind of interesting that Flaherty is still here, considering the state of the oline. Most of our picks have been busts. McCants get cut and becomes a starter for the Raiders. Beatty fell off. And other than Pugh, the only other player he developed that played a reasonable level this year is Boothe. Maybe Cordle. Not that I think he's a bad coach, but based on the measuring stick for Pope and Ingram, I would have thought he would be gone, too. Might be waiting to see what McAdoo wants. Perhaps McAdoo wanted someone else until he realized Flaherty was a possibility. I don't think any offensive coach with the Giants should feel safe after Pope was let go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishgutmartyr Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Might be waiting to see what McAdoo wants. Perhaps McAdoo wanted someone else until he realized Flaherty was a possibility. I don't think any offensive coach with the Giants should feel safe after Pope was let go. True, and maybe that was the point of the move. I assume McAdoo would have a level of comfort in finding a TE coach, knowing through experience what's needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Graziano has to be the most negative guy on ESPN NY. All he does is trash every NY team. he's garbage. don't know how he has a job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Was wondering what the snarky nickname would be for McAdoo if he fails I'm thinking HackAdoo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Kind of interesting that Flaherty is still here, considering the state of the oline. Most of our picks have been busts. McCants get cut and becomes a starter for the Raiders. Beatty fell off. And other than Pugh, the only other player he developed that played a reasonable level this year is Boothe. Maybe Cordle. Not that I think he's a bad coach, but based on the measuring stick for Pope and Ingram, I would have thought he would be gone, too. Hasn't Whimper been the starting tackle in Jacksonville for years too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Hasn't Whimper been the starting tackle in Jacksonville for years too? He started 15 games in 2011, 6 in 2012, and 2 this past year. The Jags actually cut him after the 2012 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeMesiS Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 I don't care if they bring Vince Lombardi himself.. This offense isn't going to do anything if we don't fix the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gman329 Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 I don't care if they bring Vince Lombardi himself.. This offense isn't going to do anything if we don't fix the line. THIS!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 I don't care if they bring Vince Lombardi himself.. This offense isn't going to do anything if we don't fix the line. Indeed. But you guys have me hyped on Macadoo. Sounds quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorBanksCarsonVanPelt Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 maybe he'll "retire" too Yeah I buy that shit like I bought the Brooklyn Bridge last week...please just stop it now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Yeah I buy that shit like I bought the Brooklyn Bridge last week...please just stop it now... How much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeMesiS Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Indeed. But you guys have me hyped on Macadoo. Sounds quality. I don't know why... MaCadoo is west coast coordinator. Eli is not West Coast QB. This hiring doesn't make sense to me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 ::sigh:: you're breaking my dreams Nem. Its January and I'm left rooting for fucking Denver... all I have is the hope that everybody the Giants sign and draft will be the greatest ever. The Greatest!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 I am curious if Macadoo will be bringing in his own offense, or if he'll just be working with Coughlin's offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 I don't know why... MaCadoo is west coast coordinator. Eli is not West Coast QB. This hiring doesn't make sense to me... Eli has never been asked to run that kind of system. I think that the west coast system is designed to get guys open faster, as a result of the play design moreso that relying on the player to beat the guy across the line outright. I'm glad we have a guy who has that background because it'll be nice to see those wrinkles brought in. Eli has done well at times in a 2 minute drill uptempo, no huddle kind of offense. I think he can recognize and make good decisions. His issue is that he'll try to do too much, especially if he starts to feel it's all on his shoulders. No run game, not much time to throw, and receivers who weren't getting open all plagued this season from the get-go. I also think a west coast system will help the current offensive line tremendously in the passing game. The running game, still a concern and cause for an upgrade to the offensive line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 I am curious if Macadoo will be bringing in his own offense, or if he'll just be working with Coughlin's offense. I don't know that the team gives him the ability to fire Pope and Ingram if he's not bringing in a substantial amount of his own offense. I think too, it's telling that they didn't go with Sullivan. If the Giants wanted the same thing as last season, they'd have kept Gilbride or signed Sullivan. I think that the comments made of the offense being broken are enough for us fans to know that the Giants are looking to change, but not for the sake of change. Rather, they know what they were doing no longer worked and they're approaching this change deliberately and carefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 I don't know that the team gives him the ability to fire Pope and Ingram if he's not bringing in a substantial amount of his own offense. I think too, it's telling that they didn't go with Sullivan. If the Giants wanted the same thing as last season, they'd have kept Gilbride or signed Sullivan. I think that the comments made of the offense being broken are enough for us fans to know that the Giants are looking to change, but not for the sake of change. Rather, they know what they were doing no longer worked and they're approaching this change deliberately and carefully. oh, that was Macadoo's call? If so, this sounds almost like a head-coach-in-training.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 I don't know that the team gives him the ability to fire Pope and Ingram if he's not bringing in a substantial amount of his own offense. I think too, it's telling that they didn't go with Sullivan. If the Giants wanted the same thing as last season, they'd have kept Gilbride or signed Sullivan. I think that the comments made of the offense being broken are enough for us fans to know that the Giants are looking to change, but not for the sake of change. Rather, they know what they were doing no longer worked and they're approaching this change deliberately and carefully. Yeah the league is changing as a whole, you need to be able to play all aspects of the game on offense, you can no longer be a ground team or a passing team you need to be able to do both and you need to do both well if you want to win. Look at some of the teams in the playoffs, the Patriots are a pass first team yet come playoff time they have relied more on the running game then Brady. The Seahawks have a great running game but when they need to they also have a very potent passing attack as well, the days of relying only on one aspect of the offence to win the game is long gone. I hope if anything Macaroni brings in a system that doesnt need to reinvent the wheel but something that can adapt and change from week to week. Now obviously he has some big hurdles to get over with the players and personnel but maybe in a season or two he can shape his side of the team how he wants and if it's anything like Green Bays approach I'm all for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 if donovan mcnabb can run a west coast offense i don't see why eli can't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 oh, that was Macadoo's call? If so, this sounds almost like a head-coach-in-training.... Maybe not entirely his call, but I'm sure if he wanted to keep them, they'd likely have been kept. And yes, I think the fact that Coughlin has not yet been extended beyond 2014 leaves the door wide open for McAdoo to move right up. Maybe that's not definitive just yet...but if I'm the Giants, I was advertising the OC position ensuring a chance at a HC position 1-2 years down the road depending upon what Coughlin decides and depending upon what success is had in the interim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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