JackStroud Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 I admit I have never watched Rivers play, but going by the Giants track record of bringing in garbage free agents in at LBer I'm not expecting him to play like Mike Singletary.......... Maybe he plays small. If it looks too good to be true, it usually is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 He must be a real wuss then if Jerry emphatically stated he is NOT a MLBer and no one has ever put a guy that size in the middle.........maybe he has "playbook" issues LOL you got a quote of jerry saying that? here's fewell: Fewell said he plans to move Rivers around in different positions, including middle linebacker. http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/giants/index/_/count/46 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStroud Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Having said all that I wish Rivers well........but by and large I'd rather develop our own talent like Joacqim Williams who starred in the San Fran game last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStroud Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 you got a quote of jerry saying that? here's fewell: http://espn.go.com/b...ndex/_/count/46 My bad........it was Fewell who said it. Its in an interview of Fewell on the Giants website. When will you guys tire of wishing for a stud LBer to emerge from some other teams leavings. Reminds me of people panning for gold in the Hudson river Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 My bad........it was Fewell who said it. Its in an interview of Fewell on the Giants website. When will you guys tire of wishing for a stud LBer to emerge from some other teams leavings. Reminds me of people panning for gold in the Hudson river I just went through the transcripts on there, he doesn't say anything like that, in fact he says rivers will be playing some mike. At some point in time, he’ll play some Mike linebacker for us as we continue in our OTAs. http://www.giants.com/news-and-blogs/article-1/Coordinator-Fewell-anxious-for-Camp-Battles/8bceb602-3ebc-4cb7-b612-abfb2df09e27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStroud Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 and he should rotate through there........does that mean he masters the most mentally demanding position on the world Champs D.......hmmmmm unlikley, unless we were desperate......which we are not Sounds like you are not happy with Chase at MLBer........me I like sticking with a Lombardi tested formula Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 and he should rotate through there........does that mean he masters the most mentally demanding position on the world Champs D.......hmmmmm unlikley, unless we were desperate......which we are not Sounds like you are not happy with Chase at MLBer........me I like sticking with a Lombardi tested formula Actually it just sounds like I was proving you were once again talking out of your ass. I didn't say anything about if I was happy with Chase at MLBer or not. I'm good with whoever wins the battle, but neither reese nor fewell "emphatically stated he is NOT a MLBer" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStroud Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Actually it just sounds like I was proving you were once again talking out of your ass. I didn't say anything about if I was happy with Chase at MLBer or not. I'm good with whoever wins the battle, but neither reese nor fewell "emphatically stated he is NOT a MLBer" Where has he played MLBer in the NFL........has he started as a MLBer? Do you have any idea how difficult that position is..............play it bad and the whole D falls apart We have SB winning MLBer who out-musculed Frankenstein downfield to intercept Brady.....ran the table after being re-called off the couch......enough of this nonsense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Actually it just sounds like I was proving you were once again talking out of your ass. I didn't say anything about if I was happy with Chase at MLBer or not. I'm good with whoever wins the battle, but neither reese nor fewell "emphatically stated he is NOT a MLBer" You're up against Jack logic. You wont win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Where has he played MLBer in the NFL........has he started as a MLBer? Do you have any idea how difficult that position is..............play it bad and the whole D falls apart We have SB winning MLBer who out-musculed Frankenstein downfield to intercept Brady.....ran the table after being re-called off the couch......enough of this nonsense irrelevant, all i did was expose your claim of what was said about rivers as a lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 You're up against Jack logic. You wont win. no shit i somehow forgot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStroud Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 LOL...............have it your way......you EXPOSED me LOL keep cool in this heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 no shit i somehow forgot. Can you believe some people wanted the troll back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStroud Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 OK OK I give up.............Rivers is our salvation...........Chase take a seat Lets put Williams on the scout team LOL Same ol Hens......picking and pecking at every word..........always missing the big picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Where has he played MLBer in the NFL........has he started as a MLBer? Do you have any idea how difficult that position is..............play it bad and the whole D falls apart We have SB winning MLBer who out-musculed Frankenstein downfield to intercept Brady.....ran the table after being re-called off the couch......enough of this nonsense He didn't really out-muscle him...he outjumped him because Gronkowski had a bum-ankle and literally jumped a half-inche off the ground.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allstarjim Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 I admit I have never watched Rivers play, Enough said. He's a former first round pick, has had trouble staying on the field because of injury, and Cincinatti signed Thomas Howard last year, plus have Mauluga and Manny Lawson... they are not going to pay a guy $2 million plus when they have continuity and quality linebackers in the fold. Considering Rivers hasn't been able to play enough to justify his draft position, it's a fair statement to say he's an unknown quantity. But it's also a fair statement to say that Reese has been a very good talent-evaluator, and he's bringing in a former first round pick that he obviously likes. I said Chase was a role player because I don't expect him to start this year, I think he will be the first linebacker off the bench. Our top 3 linebackers I project to be Boley, Rivers, and Kiwi, and whether or not Boley slides to the middle or Rivers plays that spot isn't something I'm worried about, I think that's how it's going to shake out. Nonetheless, I'm not selling Chase short at all. He could very well win the job and I have confidence in him to play well. I think Chase has proven himself as a quality player in the NFL. And like Pdub, I'm good with whoever wins the job. Should be a nice camp battle. But you're the one making judgements like he's a throway linebacker from another team. Yet at the same time you acknowledge never having seen him play, Jack.... so basically you're saying you don't know how good he is and you're just talking out of your butt again. Either way, we need quality depth, and whether that depth is Rivers or Blackburn I'm happy that we have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStroud Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Enough said. He's a former first round pick, has had trouble staying on the field because of injury, and Cincinatti signed Thomas Howard last year, plus have Mauluga and Manny Lawson... they are not going to pay a guy $2 million plus when they have continuity and quality linebackers in the fold. Considering Rivers hasn't been able to play enough to justify his draft position, it's a fair statement to say he's an unknown quantity. But it's also a fair statement to say that Reese has been a very good talent-evaluator, and he's bringing in a former first round pick that he obviously likes. I said Chase was a role player because I don't expect him to start this year, I think he will be the first linebacker off the bench. Our top 3 linebackers I project to be Boley, Rivers, and Kiwi, and whether or not Boley slides to the middle or Rivers plays that spot isn't something I'm worried about, I think that's how it's going to shake out. Nonetheless, I'm not selling Chase short at all. He could very well win the job and I have confidence in him to play well. I think Chase has proven himself as a quality player in the NFL. And like Pdub, I'm good with whoever wins the job. Should be a nice camp battle. But you're the one making judgements like he's a throway linebacker from another team. Yet at the same time you acknowledge never having seen him play, Jack.... so basically you're saying you don't know how good he is and you're just talking out of your butt again. Either way, we need quality depth, and whether that depth is Rivers or Blackburn I'm happy that we have it. Chase will start and thrive at MLBer for the Giants this year.......my comment revolved around Reese's talent for picking up LBers........his record is ABYSMAL, horrible........you would do better throwing darts at a LBer free agent list. the guy is good but when it comes to LBer he is the worst If Reese picked him and he's a LBer and he's coming from another team he is likely terrible........Reese would not know a good LBer if he tripped over one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue25 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Boley impressed with Rivers, report says June 21, 2012 1:50 p.m. - by Alex Raskin WLB Michael Boley has been impressed with recent acquisition Keith Rivers. “He came in and he's done some tremendous work," Rivers told ESPNNewYork.com. "He's picked up things pretty well." Rivers' presence could force Boley to play MLB. For now, Boley is still on the weakside, but Boley said “you never know” when asked if there's a chance he could switch. New York Giants RapidReports | All National Football League RapidReports http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/rapid-reports/post/19397195 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue25 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 the Trojan coaching staff committed to bestowing Rivers, a worthy future player, with the famed USC linebacker jersey # 55 to wear during his Trojan career, which is selectively awarded and has traditionally been given to a promising linebacker with the potential of becoming a USC football and NFL great, and includes past Trojan and NFL star players, all members of the so-called USC linebacker "Club 55", such as Junior Seau, Willie McGinest and Chris Claiborne.[2][3] USC linebacker coach Ken Norton Jr nicknamed Rivers "the Shark" for his aggressive play on the field, juxtaposed to his polite demeanor off of it.[4] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStroud Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 This would be a phenomenal error........Boley is not physical enough to hold down the middle of the field Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue25 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 I admit I have never watched Rivers play, but going by the Giants track record of bringing in garbage free agents in at LBer I'm not expecting him to play like Mike Singletary Garbage like Boley,Pierce,Barrow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStroud Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 This would be a phenomenal error........Boley is not physical enough to hold down the middle of the field Hopefully our coaching staff does not mess with success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue25 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 This would be a phenomenal error........Boley is not physical enough to hold down the middle of the field Guess, you forgot this hit on Romo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStroud Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Garbage like Boley,Pierce,Barrow? Pierce was a weakling who also could not cover on a great D, Barrow? Give me a brake........Boley looked good at times last year.....I'm not ready to Bronze him can you name the other 25 he wiffed on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BronxRik Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Welcome back, Jack. It's an internet miracle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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