Treehugger Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 I don't know if anyone was watch but the Giants' TE Coach Mike Pope was running the drills for the TEs at the combine yesterday. Hopefully that gives us a little inside info come draft day. Amazing how many of these top TE prospects have never worked out as an in-line blocker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlb37 Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 I don't know if anyone was watch but the Giants' TE Coach Mike Pope was running the drills for the TEs at the combine yesterday. Hopefully that gives us a little inside info come draft day. Amazing how many of these top TE prospects have never worked out as an in-line blocker. A lot of the kids now have been playing in a Shotgun Spread since Pop Warner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorBanksCarsonVanPelt Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 A lot of the kids now have been playing in a Shotgun Spread since Pop Warner. Fuck...time to bring back the T-Formation, Winged T and the I-Formation...teach them little bastards how to block. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Osi's boy Sanu ran a 4.65. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Top tight ends underwhelming Todd McShay and Kevin Weidl Scouts Inc. Teams in search of the next Rob Gronkowski left the Lucas Oil Stadium disappointed with what they saw from the 2012 crop of tight ends on Saturday. [+] Enlarge AP Photo/Dave MartinOrson Charles missed a big opportunity on Day 4 at the NFL combine. Georgia's Orson Charles (currently the No. 2 tight end on the board) was expected to kill the workout, and while he checked in a bit shorter (6-2½) than expected he did get off to a good start with 35 repetitions on the 225-pound bench press. However, Charles' decision not to run or jump was both surprising and disappointing. He had a chance to post some impressive results and make some headway as he jockeys for position atop the tight end board, but Charles didn't take advantage of that chance and also had a drop and missed two tougher catches on deep balls. Charles did show explosive burst in and out of breaks, though, and his hands were strong when plucking the ball on short to intermediate throws. He also did a great job catching the ball in the gauntlet drill, snatching passes on either side of his body while running a line. Saturday was even more disappointing for Clemson'sDwayne Allen, whose 4.89-second 40-yard dash is well off the average time of 4.77 for tight ends over the past four combines. That time seems even slower when you consider Allen measured at 6-3⅛ and 255 pounds, right near the four-year averages of 6-4¼ and 253. What makes all this even this more concerning is that Allen ranks behind Charles and No. 1 TECoby Fleener of Stanford in terms of blocking. As for Fleener, he did not run or take part in drills due to a minor ankle injury, but he is expected to execute a full workout with Cardinal QB Andrew Luck at Stanford's pro day on March 22. Finally, Louisiana-Lafayette's Ladarius Green projects as the fourth tight end in the class at this point, and he did what he could to solidify his status with a strong workout. Green had the second-fastest 40 time (4.53) and second-longest broad jump (10-4) among tight ends, and his 34½-inch vertical jump is an inch and a half better than the four-year average. However, Green is 6-6 and just 238 pounds, so he needs to land with a team that is creative enough on offense to take advantage of his unique tools. It will also be interesting to see how his medical reports turn out, because there is concern about potential tendonitis in Green's knees and negative medicals could hurt his stock. Underrated TE continues to impress Temple's Evan Rodriguez is undersized (6-1½, 239) and it's tough to find a position fit for him because he is more or less an H-back/fullback hybrid. However, Rodriguez catches everything thrown his way and is a tough competitor with great football character. He had a strong showing at the East-West Shrine Game and carried that momentum over to the combine, tying for the best vertical jump (36 inches) among tight ends, posting the third-fastest 40 (4.58) and turning in an above-average broad jump (9-11). At this point Rodriguez looks like a solid Day 3 value pick, the kind of player who can fill out the back end of the roster as a contributor both on special teams an in the passing game. Workout warrior emerges Oklahoma TE James Hanna is the workout warrior of the combine so far. Hanna posted the fastest 40 time (official 4.49), tied for the best vertical (36 inches) and had the third-best broad jump (10-2) at his position. For comparison purposes, the top 40 among tight ends last year was 4.46 (Rob Housler, Cardinals) and the top vertical was 42.5 (Virgil Green, Broncos). Don't be fooled by the numbers, though. Hanna has never played to his potential, shows stiffness in his movements and does not play to his timed speed. Teams will now go back and take a closer look at his game tape, but don't expect Hanna to suddenly skyrocket up draft boards based on this one workout. In fact, Hanna's eventual draft slot (he currently carries a late-round grade) should serve as a prime example of how the evaluation process has evolved. Despite public perception, there are no Mike Mamula-like scenarios in the NFL draft these days, with players coming out of nowhere after out-of-this-world workouts. Very few teams still make the mistake of overestimating football potential based solely on workout times and measurements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osi724dasack Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Looks like Dwayne Allens stock is plummeting. I like Ladarius Green if we can get him late. I've also warmed up to Fleener. Charles is gonna drop some weight and run a good 40 at his pro day. But at the end of the day, it's a pretty weak TE class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Rodriguez sounds a lot like Pete Mitchell... another undersized TE that Coughlin turned into an above-average player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 maybe charles or allen will drop to the end of round 2 if they keep this up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted February 27, 2012 Author Share Posted February 27, 2012 I really, really liked the drills Pope and the other coaches were making them run. 40 time means nothing if you can't run a route properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeMesiS Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 I heard James Hanna, blocks like Hanna Montana... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 I think it was on NFL network that all the "experts" were saying that this years combine was pretty underwhelming across the board. Sure there were standouts like all years and I guess those two QBs Luck and RGSBRGSGSFDDF 12 and 3/4 were impressive but in terms of over all performance across all positions it wasnt as on par as previous years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue25 Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 I think it was on NFL network that all the "experts" were saying that this years combine was pretty underwhelming across the board. Sure there were standouts like all years and I guess those two QBs Luck and RGSBRGSGSFDDF 12 and 3/4 were impressive but in terms of over all performance across all positions it wasnt as on par as previous years. For some reason alot of guys chose not to work out this year. Honestly the combine is football three weeks after the super bowl and is pretty overrated and I am huge draftnik. Some RB's posted good times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue25 Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Michael Floyd should easily be the 2nd WR off the board now. Kendall Wright ran a 4.61, which alot of people are saying just ignore, Blackmon ran drills, but no 40, alot of people were disappointed in his measurables too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue25 Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 double post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue25 Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Osi's boy Sanu ran a 4.65. He had a good broad jump and his hands measured 10 1/8 inches, he gets separation from route running more then speed. Osi's other guy Miller ran 4.4, we have no shot at him. I am thinking Jets take Miller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osi724dasack Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Lol Dontari Poe from Memphis weighed in at 348 pounds, had 44 reps of 225 and ran a 4.87!!! Haloti Ngta part 2?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osi724dasack Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 And yea Lamar Miller is looking like a beast at the combine as well. He's only been training for the 40 and vertical for 2 weeks. He was cleare 2 weeks agar start training again after shoulder surgery. He will likely run faster at his combine. I was hoping Sannu would run a 4.5, but I'm not surprised at the 4.65 and still think He can be a beast. Idk about a deep threat though. But if he plays faster then his time he can still be a beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osi724dasack Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 I'm in love with Stephen Hill WR GT, and Josh Robinson CB UCF. Both of those dudes have top flight, high grade athletic talent that's freakish. Idk how good they are, but they have insane credentials and both should be there at 32. Lamar Miller i still love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balloonknot Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 you sure your not gay... You developing man crushes seems to be almost as common as your pot smoking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osi724dasack Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 you sure your not gay... You developing man crushes seems to be almost as common as your pot smoking. Definately straight, just really comfortable saying whatever is on my mind. I love those two men as prospects for this prized football team and I'm not scared to say it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted March 2, 2012 Author Share Posted March 2, 2012 Lol Dontari Poe from Memphis weighed in at 348 pounds, had 44 reps of 225 and ran a 4.87!!! Haloti Ngta part 2?!? That guy was a monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightFire Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 That guy was a monster. Now he's top 15 in mock drafts. That guy just did himself many favours with his workout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Now he's top 15 in mock drafts. That guy just did himself many favours with his workout. What are the chances if he's still available at 15, the Giants trade up to get him... Canty as good as he is.. is a bit over-priced and is putting a damper on our cap situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 202- NFL Combine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 What are the chances if he's still available at 15, the Giants trade up to get him... Canty as good as he is.. is a bit over-priced and is putting a damper on our cap situation. Not worth the cost of moving up 1/2 a round. If he's still there in the mid 20s, it might be a bit more realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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