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What I love is that Eli put up just shy of 750 yards and 5 TD's against the Cowboys this year, in 2 games that were both must wins. Eli has shattered every QB passing milestone in Giants history practically, and he's doing it with different receivers. Last year, Steve Smith set a franchise record for receptions in a season. This year, it's Victor Cruz setting receiving yardage records. In fact, 3 of the top 4 receiving yardage seasons in Giants history are from 3 different guys all with Eli throwing them the ball, and if you go 4 of the top 6 you can say the same thing. Victor Cruz, Steve Smith, Plaxico Burress, and Hakeem Nicks. Some of this can be a sign of the times in the NFL maybe, but you don't see that unless you have a franchise, top-tier QB that is the common denominator. And early in the 2013 season, Eli will be the most prolific passer in Giants history in terms of career passing totals. He is just shy of 6000 yards of Phil Simms right now. When he passes him, he'll be 23rd or 22nd on the all-time list of NFL passers. If Eli only plays 4 more seasons, a conservative estimate will still have him in the top 10 in the NFL all-time, passing Fouts at #9, at minimum. I think Eli will play at least another 7 years, though, and if he continues to produce like he has the past several years, he'll be in the top 5 all-time.

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Actually, the real debate should be why does everyone make the comparison to Romo?

 

Go back and look and the past 6-7 years Cowboys are always either slated to win the division or come in second place. It's like the star has magical powers that make people blind to medicority

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Is it too soon to finish the debate? Is 4900+ yards and a new NFL record for 4th Qtr TDs not enough? I will be standing by. Thank you.

 

The "dog" which lockhart dick sucker is it? Diejob, nuttysack? Anyone who has discussion's in third person either loves dick or is an asswipe. Take your pick...

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To be fair, Eli's overall stat line was aided by the fact that our running game has been shit so we have been forced to throw the ball.

 

But that just creates an opportunity. You still have to go out an execute and Eli did in spades. He carried this team on his back all season. The 15 4th Quarter TDs say it all.

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ahhh...winning the NFC East (a division that ranks slightly ahead of the AFC West and just below Conference USA in terms of quality) certainly has everyone feeling giddy this week. The dog sees the self-proclaimed fair weather super fan has created a thread, and now of course the little eli is elite thread is out in full force. the dog wonders where this thread was two weeks ago following a critical game against a division opponent, but perhaps the three interception performance had everyone sitting back and waiting for the next week, when a critical win was higghlighted by a 9-27 performance. god bless victor cruz and his ability to convert 5 yeard hitches to 75 plus yard TD runs. anyhow, the dog will stand on what has been said in the past. this has been a good year for eli, but elite it is not. he is now turning toward the final stretch of his career believe it or not, so we'll see if he can maintain consistent production over that stretch. a good playoff run would go a long way in the dog's mind this year, but to be fair, after round 1, it gets pretty rough from there...

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To be fair, Eli's overall stat line was aided by the fact that our running game has been shit so we have been forced to throw the ball.

 

But that just creates an opportunity. You still have to go out an execute and Eli did in spades. He carried this team on his back all season. The 15 4th Quarter TDs say it all.

 

That also creates the opportunity for a 20+ INT season and team scapegoating a la Romo. Makes it all the more impressive IMO.

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That also creates the opportunity for a 20+ INT season and team scapegoating a la Romo. Makes it all the more impressive IMO.

 

Giants are second in the league for dropped passes. Go back and look at the games throughout the year. Key dropped passes demoralized this team. If not for that and the fact that if we don't have three probowl caliber pass rushers, rushing the QB at the same time I would be optimistic about the playoffs.

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ahhh...winning the NFC East (a division that ranks slightly ahead of the AFC West and just below Conference USA in terms of quality) certainly has everyone feeling giddy this week. The dog sees the self-proclaimed fair weather super fan has created a thread, and now of course the little eli is elite thread is out in full force. the dog wonders where this thread was two weeks ago following a critical game against a division opponent, but perhaps the three interception performance had everyone sitting back and waiting for the next week, when a critical win was higghlighted by a 9-27 performance. god bless victor cruz and his ability to convert 5 yeard hitches to 75 plus yard TD runs. anyhow, the dog will stand on what has been said in the past. this has been a good year for eli, but elite it is not. he is now turning toward the final stretch of his career believe it or not, so we'll see if he can maintain consistent production over that stretch. a good playoff run would go a long way in the dog's mind this year, but to be fair, after round 1, it gets pretty rough from there...

 

The longer this debate goes on....the stronger my position.

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The longer this debate goes on....the stronger my position.

 

yeah, the dog's not really sure how so, particularly if the giants get knocked off this weekend. the passing yards thing is good, but nothing that separates him from the pack, and the dog isn't really sure what the record for 4th quarter TDs is suppossed to indicate, but in both cases, it doesn't shine the resume up to elite status.

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Whats your barometer for elite Dog? Im not trying to be a dick but other than Rodgers, Brady, Brees, and a healthy Peyton there isn't a quarterback in the league right now that you can say is unequivocally better and has the hardware to back it up.

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Whats your barometer for elite Dog? Im not trying to be a dick but other than Rodgers, Brady, Brees, and a healthy Peyton there isn't a quarterback in the league right now that you can say is unequivocally better and has the hardware to back it up.

 

this has been the dog's point throughout this whole debate. you named the current elite QBs in the league today. elite is a status that the dog throws around haphazardly...

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yeah, the dog's not really sure how so, particularly if the giants get knocked off this weekend. the passing yards thing is good, but nothing that separates him from the pack, and the dog isn't really sure what the record for 4th quarter TDs is suppossed to indicate, but in both cases, it doesn't shine the resume up to elite status.

 

Pro bowl selection... his team won the division... he is his team's MVP.. hands down. And quite honestly.. he has far less "weapons" than Brees, Rodgers, or Brady. I think Eli's best years are ahead of him.

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Pro bowl selection... his team won the division... he is his team's MVP.. hands down. And quite honestly.. he has far less "weapons" than Brees, Rodgers, or Brady. I think Eli's best years are ahead of him.

 

and we all know pro-bowls are a legit measure...but let's take that into account for arguments sake, the dog wonders, how is matthew stafford not the third QB in? better numbers than eli across the board...lead his team, a consistent loser for over a decade to the playoffs and a better record than the giants playing in a better division...did it with johnson and what else??

 

and the dog questions the weapons argument when it comes to brees and brady, brady in particular.

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and we all know pro-bowls are a legit measure...but let's take that into account for arguments sake, the dog wonders, how is matthew stafford not the third QB in? better numbers than eli across the board...lead his team, a consistent loser for over a decade to the playoffs and a better record than the giants playing in a better division...did it with johnson and what else??

 

and the dog questions the weapons argument when it comes to brees and brady, brady in particular.

 

Stafford had 74 more attempts for a 105 more yards... not going to cherry pick any further... Because I don't want to take away anything from MS. Eli's resume speaks for itself...

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Stafford had 74 more attempts for a 105 more yards... not going to cherry pick any further... Because I don't want to take away anything from MS. Eli's resume speaks for itself...

 

and 12 more TDs...the dog is just saying, a very strong argument can be made for a pro bowl roster of rodgers, brees and stafford...

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