Allstarjim Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 As far as I'm concerned. There's going to be a lot of questions rightfully asked if this team doesn't get to the bye week at least 4-3. We have St. Louis, @Philly, @Arizona, Seattle, and Buffalo before the bye. IMO, St. Louis is a must win, because if we drop that game, we are almost assuredly starting 0-3 staring an away game against an much improved Arizona team in their house... and after the bye the "easy" part of the schedule is over. So mods, feel free to pin this, because the watch is on. Cowher on speed dial yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allstarjim Posted September 12, 2011 Author Share Posted September 12, 2011 Let's list our indictments of TC, Gilbride, and even Fewell here. Indictment 1: Psychotic loyalty to Lawrence Tynes... and the contract Tynes received was Isaiah Thomas-esque. Indictment 2: Short yardage failures, doing the same thing that's not working over and over... what do they say that's the definition of? Somebody else's turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMFP Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Time to go on a roll.....we can win all those games, including Philly, if this team rediscovers the swagger it had back in 2007. If Eli is an elite QB, we'll get on that roll. I watched the Rams-Philly game, and that was a winnable game for the Rams. I see the same outcome for the Giants if they don't tighten it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allstarjim Posted September 12, 2011 Author Share Posted September 12, 2011 Time to go on a roll.....we can win all those games, including Philly, if this team rediscovers the swagger it had back in 2007. If Eli is an elite QB, we'll get on that roll. You're setting yourself up Joe, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishgutmartyr Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Let's list our indictments of TC, Gilbride, and even Fewell here. Indictment 1: Psychotic loyalty to Lawrence Tynes... and the contract Tynes received was Isaiah Thomas-esque. Indictment 2: Short yardage failures, doing the same thing that's not working over and over... what do they say that's the definition of? Somebody else's turn. Finally, someone indicting Fewell... Considering the investment in it, our backfield should be playing much more effectively than it has been--even with the loss of Thomas. Even last year, it was below par with the talent available. We field multiple first- and second-rounders, and still are, only to get whacked every week. Continued devotion to our linebackers coach. Kehl, Wilkinson, Goff, Sintim...you mean to tell me he could only get one of them in serviceable shape in 3 years? Then why is he still here beyond Sheridan? I'm not counting the rookies, since he really hasn't had much to do with them. We still get slaughtered on 3rd and long. We still can't get off the field at crucial junctures. We still give up big plays on a weekly basis. Add for TC: Mysterious need to keep a special teams coach that has proven completely incapable of handling the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 As far as I'm concerned. There's going to be a lot of questions rightfully asked if this team doesn't get to the bye week at least 4-3. We have St. Louis, @Philly, @Arizona, Seattle, and Buffalo before the bye. IMO, St. Louis is a must win, because if we drop that game, we are almost assuredly starting 0-3 staring an away game against an much improved Arizona team in their house... and after the bye the "easy" part of the schedule is over. So mods, feel free to pin this, because the watch is on. Cowher on speed dial yet? Fuck Cowher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMFP Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 You're setting yourself up Joe, Yeah, I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lughead Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Fewell Is not the answer as well . He will not get off the damn tampa2 coverage. wayyyyyyy to soft on coverage. D line is doing ok considering Lber play is getting better although some rookies out of place here and there. I haven't wanted Gillbride since day 1 he is a waste of space. ................ god Bless you Buddy Ryan..... although your son's are retarded. Coughlin has lost his poise I mean in the last 2 years watching him on the sidelines you can see it slipping away. now its embarrassing to watch his grade school hissy fits. Also the thing with loyalty I mean really how loyal can you be when the coaches you hire are bringing down the ship and you do nothing about it? is it loyalty or stupidity? the only Non player that should be left in the locker room is Skeeba . Oh yeah I almost forgot...... the medical staff or what ever they are are also the staff that takes care of the Mets Hmmmmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Gilbride: Why does he hate running the ball so much? Does your offense have to have a dozen pre-snap reads? Fewell: Why do you get away from what's working for you? I.E. if you're stopping them on third down by blitzing, why do you start using 7 DBs instead? Coughlin: Why can't you fix fundamental problems with your team like holding on to the ball (watch how Nicks holds the ball on his TD, and check out Bradshaw... they're both fumbles waiting to happen) and penalties? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rphguy Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Fuck Cowher. why do you want to do that? I feel sure he's not in the Sweet on your Feet Iranian Hiking Club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 why do you want to do that? I feel sure he's not in the Sweet on your Feet Iranian Hiking Club I'm just tired of old farts rotating between teams.. We need young blood on that team... TCs antics are fucking childish... Gilbride sucks and Fewel is nowhere near Spags or Fox's levels.. And don't even get me started about special teams and conditioning... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 +1 for Gilbride's clumsy playcalling system; constant delay-of-game penalties and an inability to go to a "hurry up" offense. It takes too damn long to get the plays in. Whether that's on Gilbride's slow play selection, Eli's slow response or the team's inability to grasp the options it's Gilbride's system and he owns the blame. How many times do we need to see us down on the scoreboard with precious time ticking off the clock while the O takes 43-45 sec to get each play off? +1 for Fewell's obsession with the soft Tampa-2. I think I hate it even more than the dreaded "prevent" D of years past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steitzenhaus Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 I'm just tired of old farts rotating between teams.. We need young blood on that team... TCs antics are fucking childish... Gilbride sucks and Fewel is nowhere near Spags or Fox's levels.. And don't even get me started about special teams and conditioning... For a guy who preaches discipline, Coughlin sure doesn't look the part a lot of the time. As for Gilbride, the Giants are usually able to move the ball well on a game to game basis. They also have playmakers though, so this should be a given. I'm no coach, but I've read in articles and from posts on here that his "read and react" offense is quite intricate and difficult. There always seems to be a few miscommunications between Eli and his receivers every game. If it's causing that much trouble to execute, change and perhaps simplify it. This team has two very good backs and at receiver, an emerging star and great #2. It shouldn't be that fucking hard. I remember another Giants coordinator, albeit on the defensive side of the ball, that used a "read and react" scheme. That also sucked frequently. I have to see a moderately healthy Giant defense before I can kill Fewell but I will say the 4th and 5 play was ridiculous. The Giants dropped everyone back PAST THE FIRST DOWN MARKER. Also, if your opponent is going to rip you a new one with passes through the middle of the field why not try something else? Send the linebackers in if they can't cover what difference does it make?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayD Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 I'm just tired of old farts rotating between teams.. We need young blood on that team... TCs antics are fucking childish... Gilbride sucks and Fewel is nowhere near Spags or Fox's levels.. And don't even get me started about special teams and conditioning... I dont know man. Cowher coached a top 5 defense for many years. You get this guy the right OC, and it would be hard to beat this team. NTM the FA's that would be more then happy to play for him. Im all for bring in Cowher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 I dont know man. Cowher coached a top 5 defense for many years. You get this guy the right OC, and it would be hard to beat this team. NTM the FA's that would be more then happy to play for him. Im all for bring in Cowher. I think Cowher is in the same league as Gibbs and Shanahan... not exactly a world beater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allstarjim Posted September 19, 2011 Author Share Posted September 19, 2011 I think Cowher is in the same league as Gibbs and Shanahan... not exactly a world beater. Shanahan looks pretty good right now. Cowher's teams consistently made the playoffs. Yeah, he won only one SuperBowl, but come on, he one that in Roethlisberger's rookie year, and prior to that he had Tommy Maddox and Kordell Stewart as QB's, and he was still winning. I trust Cowher, he's a winner that won't settle for less than excellence. A good point was made, he needs a top OC, though, an aggressive one. Not a Gilbride clone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 The grass always looks better on the other side of the fence There hasn't been a single game where everyone was happy since the super bowl or before it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 The grass always looks better on the other side of the fence There hasn't been a single game where everyone was happy since the super bowl or before it. You gotta point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masterjeffz Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 The rash of injuries and awful special teams are a huge part of it. I dispise the jets but their special teams win then like 4 games a year. Punt coverage ,having excellent gunners at point of attack , and tynes blows big time. Even if the special teams are solid we could go 10-6 again and that's if everything broke right. But if no Vick on Sunday gotta win, even if he's there gotta win. Eagles fans talk so much trash about beating the giants blah , blah. Yea we know 6 straight including couple playoff wins. But tell me Philly how many superbowls you win in that time or before that ? You went 4 straight NFC title games. One superbowl and you HAVE WON NOTHING !!!!!! so when you win one come talk to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 The rash of injuries and awful special teams are a huge part of it. I dispise the jets but their special teams win then like 4 games a year. Punt coverage ,having excellent gunners at point of attack , and tynes blows big time. Even if the special teams are solid we could go 10-6 again and that's if everything broke right. But if no Vick on Sunday gotta win, even if he's there gotta win. Eagles fans talk so much trash about beating the giants blah , blah. Yea we know 6 straight including couple playoff wins. But tell me Philly how many superbowls you win in that time or before that ? You went 4 straight NFC title games. One superbowl and you HAVE WON NOTHING !!!!!! so when you win one come talk to me That's why the harp on the 6 games.. they got nothing else... and the other side of it is. the Giants have failed us... we dominated the shit out of them.. only to let go too early.. wtf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masterjeffz Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 I agree we let them off the hook. Be nice to hang a 30 spot on them , so the dream team can shut up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osi724dasack Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 Why is this thread pinned??? It's like a big cloud of doom and doubt hanging above the giants section. Take it down! Bad vibes man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BronxRik Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Why is this thread pinned??? It's like a big cloud of doom and doubt hanging above the giants section. Take it down! Bad vibes man! I actually agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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