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im kinda pumped about sash

 

 

In the Hawkeyes' pro-style defense, Sash recorded 79 tackles (three and a half for loss) and two interceptions during his final (junior) year at Iowa. He was voted first-team All Big-Ten by coaches and media, and he was also one of 10 semifinalists for the Jim Thorpe Award, given annually to the nation's top defensive back.

 

Sash played strong safety at Iowa, and is currently listed at 6-foot, 211 pounds. He is the subject of today's 2011 NFL Draft prospect profile.

 

 

Tyler Sash

SS, Iowa

6-foot, 211 pounds

Projection: Round 3

 

Read & React: Reads his keys to sniff out running plays and quick screens. Instinctive, flies through traffic to get to stretch plays or plug holes inside. Good range, but at times can be a step slow to find a receiver coming into his zone. Overaggressive and will overrun plays.

 

Man Coverage: Good athleticism for his size, can trail most tight ends into the flat or on crossing routes. Gets his hands on tight ends in coverage, but could draw contact flags in the NFL. Fair backpedal for a safety, can handle slot responsibility for short periods of time against four-receiver sets.

 

Zone Coverage: Played in a lot of two-deep coverage. Quick enough to reach the sideline on long throws. Good hands to take advantage of overthrows over the middle. Gets pulled out of his area at times, leaving space for the trailing receiver. Bites hard on good play-action.

 

Closing/Recovery: Underrated speed and good angles allow him to track down backs from behind. Will be an effective blitzer playing around the line. Adequate recovery speed for a safety if beaten by receivers, but will not catch many NFL receivers from behind.

 

Run Support: Always looking for run keys from two-deep position. Closes to the ball quickly, bringing bad intentions in flying to the ball on stretch plays. Fails to break down at times, overrunning the play and opening cutback lanes in the process. Fails to shed blocks to make plays, but has good strength to get off receiver blocks.

 

Tackling: Well-built upper body gives him excellent strength for the position. Goes for the big shoulder or forearm slam over the middle but still makes a grab for jersey to minimize yards after catch. Extends arms or lays strong shoulder hit to back heading out of bounds instead of merely escorting them. Can rip the ball out while wrapping. Effective cutting ballcarriers and making ankle tackles in the open field, though he should leave his feet less and keep his head up more often against NFL ballcarriers.

 

Intangibles: Vocal leader in the locker room. Puts in the time to prepare for next week's opponent. Demonstrative and talkative on the field. No known character concerns.

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im kinda pumped about sash

 

 

 

 

I had him going at the end of round two to San Diego who took Gilchrist instead. Sash is a much better prospect then Gilchrist. I love it. He is a perfect fit for the Tampa 2, he's like Bob Sanders (who went to the same school) only bigger. What an awesome pick and will play with a chip on his shoulder now.

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Jaquain Williams will be a beast on specials, BEAST!!!

 

And has the potential to start one day!

 

Love this pick, went to class with JPP and has JPP like upside.

 

Williams is a complete no name guy

 

36 inch vert

6-2 224

4.55 40

 

incredibly raw but can play specials right off the bat and he is a great kid and extremely hard worker!!!

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The weaknesses of the OL we took are some of the worst weaknesses I've ever heard from a prospect. He seems like a big pussy to me. Hopefully he proves me wrong.

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I had him going at the end of round two to San Diego who took Gilchrist instead. Sash is a much better prospect then Gilchrist. I love it. He is a perfect fit for the Tampa 2, he's like Bob Sanders (who went to the same school) only bigger. What an awesome pick and will play with a chip on his shoulder now.

 

 

The kid is a stone cold baller. Our punt and Kick Off coverage just made a significant upgrade.

 

He's cut below Sanders....not as fast or as good in space....fucking Sanders was lethall. But he is real smart, has excellent ball skills and he will fucking cripple you if he gets the right angle. ...which he does most of the time because like I said...he's real intelligent.

 

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From Wiki:

 

Tyler Sash (born May 27, 1988) is an American football defensive back for the University of Iowa.[1] Sash plays the Safety position. Sash has 13 career interceptions for the Hawkeyes, which is five shy of the school record for career interceptions, originally set by Nile Kinnick from 1937-1939.

 

The Iowa safety also holds the Iowa record for career interception return yards with 392. That career interception return yard total also ranks fifth in Big Ten history, according to ESPN's Adam Rittenberg.[2]

 

Sash recorded six interceptions in the 2009 football season, which is two shy of the school record for interceptions in a season. That record is also held by Kinnick, who had eight interceptions in his Heisman Trophy winning season of 1939. His 86-yard touchdown return against Indiana ranks as fifth longest interception return in school history. Against Iowa State in 2009, Sash recorded three interceptions in the game to earn another Hawkeye record and co-Big Ten Defensive Player of the Week honors.[3]

 

Sash was named to the 2010 preseason Lott Trophy Watch List, a trophy named in honor of former college and NFL Hall of Fame defensive back Ronnie Lott and presented annually to the college football defensive player of the year. He was also named to the 2010 preseason Bronko Nagurski watch list,[4] awarded annually by the Football Writers Association of America to the nation's best defensive player.

 

On January 13, 2011, Sash decided to forgo his senior season to make himself eligible for the 2011 NFL Draft.

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I would have liked to see us get Malcolm Smith late in the 7th if we could have....it would have been cool to have two brothers on the same team. Does anyone know if that has ever occurred before on the Giants? I don't think I've seen it in my 24 short years....

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My analysis:

 

Rounds 1 and 2 were terrific values with Prince and Austin. Both players may start immediately and have Pro Bowl ceilings.

 

One thing about the Austin pick... while grabbing Austin here has enormous potential and is a huge value, Stephen Paea, who does not have any character concerns, was right there, and went a pick later to the Bears. I thought Paea would've been a great pick as well, and I wonder if the choice for Austin was about the latter's ceiling maybe being higher than Paea. Paea did have the lateral meniscus tear in the senior bowl that he had surgery for, and this is probably another reason the choice was Austin. But Paea was dominant in the Pac-10 and broke Mitch Petrus' record for reps of 225 with 49. Watching Paea on film, he has other-wordly explosion off the ball to go with his incredible strength. Austin HAS to be as good Paea or better in the NFL or we might be second guessing this one for a while, particularly if Austin gets himself into trouble. The ball is in Austin's court, if he's ready to play his best football and be a good citizen, then the Giants did exceptionally well there.

 

Jerrigan was an attempt to add some team speed in the third. While I don't love the pick with a capital L, if he adds a dimension to our kick and punt return game that is missing, then he is a good pick. I don't expect him to contribute a lot on offense, though.

 

Brewer in Round 4 is a project tackle. I thought that the Giants would go for Johnny White in that spot, a player who runs with power, and has the size and speed to be a franchise running back in the NFL. It also could've been a spot to address TE, a definite need going into the draft that wasn't addressed. Julius Thomas was taken later in the round and is a high upside player. If Brewer develops into a starting caliber OT, however, which he has the tools and physical presence to do, it's a steal in the 4th.

 

The next pick was in the 6th and was used to take ILB Greg Jones from Michigan State. He has a lot of potential and I really like the pick. Later in the 6th, we take Tyler Sash, SS from Iowa. This is one of my favorite picks in the draft. Sash is a little undersized and plays faster than he times. He has a nack for the football and for big hits. Sash reminds me of a little bit smaller John Lynch. He plays with reckless abandon and I love that he is a Giant. A lot of people had Sash going much earlier, so this is a coup for the Giants at the end of the 6th.

 

The Giants use their last 6th rounder on a linebacker I've never heard of, in Jacquian Williams. His size suggests he's a WIL (6'2", 216), and I really don't know much else about him. Hopefully the Giants see something special in him. I thought the Giants would've been better off going with Virgil Green, a TE who was picked 2 picks later. Virgil is a very strong and fast TE who, other than being a little shorter than the prototype TE, has the requisite tools to be a very good combo TE in the NFL. I hope Jacquian proves me wrong, though.

 

In the 7th, the Giants get Da'rel Scott, a change of pace running back short on production but has some ability. Scott was a very good pick this late in the draft. I really wish the Giants had addressed running back in the 3rd or 4th round, though, and grabbed a franchise back that would have the ability to threaten to take the starter's job away. Scott is not that kind of back.

 

Overall, I give this draft an A-. The top 2 rounds were excellent, and the Giants found players with enormous upside throughout the later rounds. We could easily look back at this draft as one that helped turn the corner for another championship run. I would've liked them to add a little more in terms of offensive team speed in the middle rounds, particularly in the 4th, and I would've liked them to find a TE in this draft, but overall, I'm very pleased.

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  • 3 months later...

I would have liked to see us get Malcolm Smith late in the 7th if we could have....it would have been cool to have two brothers on the same team. Does anyone know if that has ever occurred before on the Giants? I don't think I've seen it in my 24 short years....

 

Hey stormy can your Eagles rush the QB like that?

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