Guest Carbo Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 OK carbo, Respond to the post I made stating why the team is better.... I was going to, but Lockhart did a better job. . . Linebackers will be healthy, but without Griesen. the Cornerbacks are NOT better as an aging Madison and questionble Corey Webster to start in place of the Wills - at best that is equal to the Wills. Demps could be considered an improvement. The loss of Clancy is devastating - no replacement on the team or signed as of yet. Eli will be better - Why? - because you say so? the Giants schedule in 2005 was one of the easiest in the NFL - in 2006 it's the hardest. Eli's production in 2005 got worse as the season wore on - no telling how he will perform in 2006 - same with Plaxico who disappeared once November came. At this point in time, the Giants are the same team that finised 2005 - a questionable offense and now a weakened defensive line facing a much tougher 2006 schedule and a much improved Dallas and Redskin team. The Cowboys, Redskins and Eagles face the same tough schedule, but a few losses in the NFC East and a 7-9 or 6-10 record becomes a reality. A 9-7 record could win the NFC East this year.Even if you disagree, there are some valid points here, worthy of discussion, not prepubescent name calling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relyoneli Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 Oh the irony... It's lost on those morons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lockhart Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 It's lost on those morons. Good Response! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firstnten Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 I would just like to say the following... I was actually looking forward to some vaguely intelligent discussion on this topic 'ESPN rates the NY Giants Schedule the Hardest' A valid topic and one worthy of sensible debate However having read the utter mindless exchange of mudslinging and tripe in this thread None of which relates to the topic ...... i wont bother Time to grow up a bit gentlemen, IMO, or the board might soon fall apart there was a time when I tried to have legit conv with the nimrods about football, and for the record many many other members tried also...every time a counter point was made or the info they used to support there inane rambling was dismantled these dudes would just keep right on walking... I have seen these dudes get dismantled over and over....their response... there is and was none... they would skip right over the information in the post that disporoved all of ther points... you can have a legit argument with them..... why argue with a two year old? Discipline them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK-Giantsfan Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 I was going to, but Lockhart did a better job. . . your multi personality disorder is a litte bit worrying Corbockhart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relyoneli Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 Good Response! Thanks, douchebag! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 10_80_27 Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 Linebackers will be healthy, but withoutBack Up who kept getting hurt Griesen. the Cornerbacks are NOT better as an aging Madison and questionble Corey Webster to start in place of the Wills - at best that is equal to the Wills. Demps could be considered an improvement. The loss of (Depth player wasnt even That good) Clancy is devastating (Why because you say so) - no replacement on the team or signed as of yet. Eli will be better - Why? - because you say so (Just a year of experiance alone makes him better) ? the Giants schedule in 2005 was one of the easiest in the NFL - in 2006 it's the hardest. Eli's production in 2005 got worse as the season wore on (a Young QB playing his FIRST FULL season wore down at the end of the year...Thats nothing new) - no telling how he will perform in 2006 - same with Plaxico who disappeared once November came. At this point in time, the Giants are the same team that finised 2005 - a questionable offense and now a weakened defensive line (Wrong OSi Is better now then he was entering last year) facing a much tougher 2006 schedule and a much (Why cause you said so) improved Dallas and Redskin team. The Cowboys, Redskins and Eagles face the same tough schedule (WRONG) but a few losses in the NFC East and a 7-9 or 6-10 record becomes a reality. A 9-7 record could win the NFC East this year.Why cause you said so....Did you think we would be NFC east Champs this time last year....NO you Didnt HOW DO THE COWBOYS, EAGLES, SKINS, HAVE AS HARD A SCEDULE AS WE DO? 2006 schedule: Strength of opponents Team Opponents' '05 win pct. Opponents' '05 wins Opponents' '05 losses Giants .543 139 117 Bengals .543 139 117 Saints .539 138 118 Buccaneers .539 138 118 Steelers .531 136 120 Titans .527 135 121 Chiefs .527 135 121 Texans .523 134 122 Ravens .523 134 122 Eagles .520 133 123 Redskins .516 132 124 Broncos .516 132 124 Raiders .516 132 124 Browns .512 131 125 Falcons .508 130 126 Rams .508 130 126 Panthers .504 129 127 Cowboys .504 129 127 Cardinals .500 128 128 Chargers .488 125 131 Jaguars .488 125 131 Colts .484 124 132 49ers .477 122 134 Bills .477 122 134 Lions .473 121 135 Patriots .473 121 135 Dolphins .469 120 136 Jets .465 119 137 Vikings .457 117 139 Seahawks .457 117 139 Packers .449 115 141 Bears .445 114 142 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firstnten Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 Linebackers will be healthy, but without Griesen. the Cornerbacks are NOT better as an aging Madison and questionble Corey Webster to start in place of the Wills - at best that is equal to the Wills. Demps could be considered an improvement. The loss of Clancy is devastating - no replacement on the team or signed as of yet. Eli will be better - Why? - because you say so? the Giants schedule in 2005 was one of the easiest in the NFL - in 2006 it's the hardest. Eli's production in 2005 got worse as the season wore on - no telling how he will perform in 2006 - same with Plaxico who disappeared once November came. At this point in time, the Giants are the same team that finised 2005 - a questionable offense and now a weakened defensive line facing a much tougher 2006 schedule and a much improved Dallas and Redskin team. The Cowboys, Redskins and Eagles face the same tough schedule, but a few losses in the NFC East and a 7-9 or 6-10 record becomes a reality. A 9-7 record could win the NFC East this year. Linebackers will be healthy, but without Griesen. commonsense the Cornerbacks are NOT better as an aging Madison and questionable Corey Webster to start in place of the Wills - at best that is equal to the Wills. Demps could be considered an improvement. Use you own answer here: Why? - Because you say so? Questionable Corey Webster was a rookie last year...and NY may draft one so to day the CB's are not better of is flat out speculation. Eli's production in 2005 got worse as the season wore on - no telling how he will perform in 2006 - same with Plaxico who disappeared once November came. At this point in time, the Giants are the same team that finished 2005 - a questionable offense and now a weakened defensive line facing a much tougher 2006 schedule and a much improved Dallas and Redskin team. There are so many hypocritical statements in the paragraph it's fascinating. Loklchart would battle Floyd and others saying that manning would and will improve many many times. Did plax disappear or was the oline playing bad pass protect, was Manning’s mechanics way off? The Giants are not the same team that finished at the end of 2005 roster changes have been made!! This is commonsense of which he demonstrates ZERO percent. A questionable offense that had one of the most dynamic versatile offensive players in the NFL last year. If gaining over 2000 all purpose yards and carrying the team to a few wins is questionable!!?!?!? Let no for get that midseasn manning was leading the NFC with a few stats. i gues that was questionable also. As far as strength of schedule Pitt had the SAME strength of schedule as did NY last year. Only dipshits and news reports are going to say at this date how tough a schedule we have. These figures are based on last years winning percentages,think how fucking stupid to sit here and say that, yes, every team NY faces this year will have the same or better winning percentage then last year.. This is why I don’t talk legit to these fools.... wake up nothing these guys post is worth anything more the gay jokes, and bitch slappings... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemmiwinks Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 commonsense Use you own answer here: Why? - Because you say so? Questionable Corey Webster was a rookie last year...and NY may draft one so to day the CB's are not better of is flat out speculation. There are so many hypocritical statements in the paragraph it's fascinating. Loklchart would battle Floyd and others saying that manning would and will improve many many times. Did plax disappear or was the oline playing bad pass protect, was Manning’s mechanics way off? The Giants are not the same team that finished at the end of 2005 roster changes have been made!! This is commonsense of which he demonstrates ZERO percent. A questionable offense that had one of the most dynamic versatile offensive players in the NFL last year. If gaining over 2000 all purpose yards and carrying the team to a few wins is questionable!!?!?!? Let no for get that midseasn manning was leading the NFC with a few stats. i gues that was questionable also. As far as strength of schedule Pitt had the SAME strength of schedule as did NY last year. Only dipshits and news reports are going to say at this date how tough a schedule we have. These figures are based on last years winning percentages,think how fucking stupid to sit here and say that, yes, every team NY faces this year will have the same or better winning percentage then last year.. This is why I don’t talk legit to these fools.... wake up nothing these guys post is worth anything more the gay jokes, and bitch slappings... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lockhart Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 I was going to, but Lockhart did a better job. . . Even if you disagree, there are some valid points here, worthy of discussion, not prepubescent name calling. Thanks Carbo and while we might disagree on some points, we don't stoop to the infantile use of profanity. Anyway, as adults we are able to discuss these things and by remaining civil, we are setting a good example to our younger, less mature and knowledgeable friends on this board. I still have faith that they too, will soon not only know the Giants and the NFL as well as we do, but also be conversant on the board without resorting to the vulgarity so frequently seen now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firstnten Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 Thanks Carbo and while we might disagree on some points, we don't stoop to the infantile use of profanity. Anyway, as adults we are able to discuss these things and by remaining civil, we are setting a good example to our younger, less mature and knowledgeable friends on this board. I still have faith that they too, will soon not only know the Giants and the NFL as well as we do, but also be conversant on the board without resorting to the vulgarity so frequently seen now. you don;t discuss anything.... you make statements.....I have never seen you discuss anything lockhart... you can't even get that right... An example of a lockhart discussion. lockhart: "that car is red" Lockharts genitals: "no its not it's yellow" Lockhart: " That was a nice red car, I bet it goes very fast" Lockharts genitals: "when do you plan on taking care of this yellow discharge"? Lockhart: "cars have four wheels and we drive them". ---End of "discussion"--- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relyoneli Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 Thanks Carbo and while we might disagree on some points, we don't stoop to the infantile use of profanity. Anyway, as adults we are able to discuss these things and by remaining civil, we are setting a good example to our younger, less mature and knowledgeable friends on this board. I still have faith that they too, will soon not only know the Giants and the NFL as well as we do, but also be conversant on the board without resorting to the vulgarity so frequently seen now. Your one and the same asshole. You are the last people that anyone would consider as an example, unless they are talking about examples of losers. Based on observations on various MB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lockhart Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 From ESPN Insider: N.Y. Giants Outside linebacker: The jury is still out on whether Reggie Torbor will ever realize his potential. Although he has played well at times, he is inconsistent. The bigger concern is on the strong side. Carlos Emmons, who turns 33 this year, has lost a step and is coming off a season-ending pectoral injury. With unrestricted free agent Nick Greisen wanting to play inside and likely signing with another team, there isn't much depth here either. The Giants need an outside linebacker who has the speed, athletic ability and power to supplant Emmons as the starter. That would allow him to move into a backup role where he would provide quality depth. Wide receiver: Plaxico Burress' first season with the Giants was the second most productive of his career and he returns as Eli Manning's go-to-receiver. There are concerns about the No. 2, however. Although Amani Toomer runs good routes and doesn't drop many passes, he isn't as explosive as he was earlier in his career and has problems consistently separating from man coverage. There is good depth here but Jamaar Taylor drops too many passes and Tim Carter is too raw to replace Toomer at this point. As a result, the Giants need a receiver who has the size, burst and athletic ability to make an immediate impact. Defensive tackle: Kendrick Clancy's decision to sign with Arizona makes this a far greater need. Clancy didn't make many big plays, but he was relentless and, more importantly, consistent. Although William Joseph has far more natural ability, he doesn't always play with a mean streak and has yet to realize his potential. Exasperating the loss of Clancy is the fact that Fred Robbins, who has had problems keeping his weight down, tends to wear down over the course of games. The Giants need a defensive tackle who can replace Robbins, allowing him to move into a situational run-stuffing role. Offensive tackle: Luke Petitgout has avoided becoming a cap casualty, but he will have to compete for a starting job opposite Kareem McKenzie. Although he is a technician who plays with good intensity, Petitgout has been slowed by back pain and is having problems holding up on an island in pass protection. Bob Whitfield and Lewis Kelly provide some depth. However, Whitfield isn't an every-down player at this point of his career and Kelly's lack of strength is reason for concern. The Giants need to add a tackle who can push Petitgout for playing time. Running back: Few players do as much for a team as Tiki Barber does for the Giants. He is a smart, between-the-tackles runner, has the burst to break long runs and catches the ball extremely well. However, he is undersized and 31 years old. That has to raise concerns about his durability, especially since he gets so many touches. Brandon Jacobs is a powerful short-yardage runner, but he lacks the initial burst of an every-down back. The Giants need to start preparing for life after Barber and improve depth by adding a developmental back who has the tools to replace Barber when the time comes. Other options: Interior offensive line and cornerback Most of this has been stated by the FAB 4 for weeks. The acquistion of a REAL RB to backup and take over for Tiki is paramount. If none is found and Tiki is hurt in 2006, the Giant offense is dead in the water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firstnten Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 HOW DO THE COWBOYS, EAGLES, SKINS, HAVE AS HARD A SCEDULE AS WE DO? 2006 schedule: Strength of opponents Team Opponents' '05 win pct. Opponents' '05 wins Opponents' '05 losses Giants .543 139 117 Bengals .543 139 117 Saints .539 138 118 Buccaneers .539 138 118 Steelers .531 136 120 Titans .527 135 121 Chiefs .527 135 121 Texans .523 134 122 Ravens .523 134 122 Eagles .520 133 123 Redskins .516 132 124 Broncos .516 132 124 Raiders .516 132 124 Browns .512 131 125 Falcons .508 130 126 Rams .508 130 126 Panthers .504 129 127 Cowboys .504 129 127 Cardinals .500 128 128 Chargers .488 125 131 Jaguars .488 125 131 Colts .484 124 132 49ers .477 122 134 Bills .477 122 134 Lions .473 121 135 Patriots .473 121 135 Dolphins .469 120 136 Jets .465 119 137 Vikings .457 117 139 Seahawks .457 117 139 Packers .449 115 141 Bears .445 114 142 as is the norm lickshardcock's answer is no where to be found.... one might might ask why....becasue once again he's proven wrong..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relyoneli Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 as is the norm lickshardcock's answer is no where to be found.... one might might ask why....becasue once again he's proven wrong..... Ignorance is his calling card. For laughs, we can always make another list of his wrong predictions. He has never addressed them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firstnten Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 From ESPN Insider: Most of this has been stated by the FAB 4 for weeks. The acquistion of a REAL RB to backup and take over for Tiki is paramount. If none is found and Tiki is hurt in 2006, the Giant offense is dead in the water. if a key player is injured and there is no back up (insert team name) could be in trouble.... in other news... water is wet.... the sky is blue... and lockhart still loves the cock... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lockhart Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 as is the norm lickshardcock's answer is no where to be found.... one might might ask why....becasue once again he's proven wrong..... NO you are wrong again - the NFC East schedules are all identical except for two games. Learn the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firstnten Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 Ignorance is his calling card. For laughs, we can always make another list of his wrong predictions. He has never addressed them. Every single post is either a commonsense observation, or some general statment... I bet he drives his mommy crazy when she drops him off for school.... i can see him now windows rolled down, with his head hanging out the window drooling, pointing at every object that passes his view.... "Look mommy a house"...... "look a red car".... "mommy, look that policeman is hitting daddy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relyoneli Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 Every single post is either a commonsense observation, or some general statment... I bet he drives his mommy crazy when she drops him off for school.... i can see him now windows rolled down, with his head hanging out the window drooling, pointing at every object that passes his view.... "Look mommy a house"...... "look a red car".... "mommy, look that policeman is hitting daddy" Actually, lockhart's mommy is his daddy. Didn't you know he has two fathers? I thought that was common knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
420 Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 Actually, lockhart's mommy is his daddy. Didn't you know he has two fathers? I thought that was common knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plax 4 Prez Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 I don't call you a realist; I call you a pathetic poser who, for whatever reason, thinks pretending to be overly-cynical on a sports message board is interesting. Well put! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK-Giantsfan Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 Your one and the same asshole. You are the last people that anyone would consider as an example, unless they are talking about examples of losers. Based on observations on various MB. Rely makes a good point. We cannot take you seriously Cabockhartheanswersdisasteretc etc etc while you exist in this multi personality form backing up your own assertions. Nearly all your statements are ridiculously negative and deliberately provocative. Then one of your other incarnations appears on the scene to congratulate yourself on your first point of view. I do believe that you know the game and you are well informed.... but please give us a break from this charade. UK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 10_80_27 Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 your multi personality disorder is a litte bit worrying Corbockhart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firstnten Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 NO you are wrong again - the NFC East schedules are all identical except for two games. Learn the game. how can they be indetical "except"...dipshit??? In the real world when you calculate precentages you have to use all of the data... this should be tattoo'd onto your fourhead... gonrw era ouy on next time you get paid at wallmart you can tell them you want to get paid exactly like last week only take out two days... owning you has become way too easy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firstnten Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 Rely makes a good point. We cannot take you seriously Cabockhartheanswersdisasteretc etc etc while you exist in this multi personality form backing up your own assertions. Nearly all your statements are ridiculously negative and deliberately provocative. Then one of your other incarnations appears on the scene to congratulate yourself on your first point of view. I do believe that you know the game and you are well informed.... but please give us a break from this charade. UK lockharts a great and acurate poster.... except when he's not.... it amazes me some of her posts.... the Ny schedual is the same as the rest of the division....but the other teams play two different teams.. Lockhart really likes girls, when is cock in not in floyds rectum... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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