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Scores in Red are snapped from inside the 20. Scores in Green are from 20-30. I'm basing this on a 15 yard snap for FG attempts.

 

vs Washington

 

1st Quarter

FG L.Tynes 28 yd. Field Goal (12-67, 7:19)

 

2nd Quarter

TD M.Manningham 30 yd. pass from E.Manning (L.Tynes kick) (6-44, 3:10)

 

TD O.Umenyiora 37 yd. fumble return (L.Tynes kick)

 

4th Quarter

FG L.Tynes 45 yd. Field Goal (8-44, 4:47)

 

FG L.Tynes 28 yd. Field Goal (10-66, 6:11)

 

 

 

 

 

vs Dallas

 

1st Quarter

FG L.Tynes 30 yd. Field Goal (9-71, 4:29)

 

TD B.Johnson 34 yd. interception return (L.Tynes kick)

 

2nd Quarter

FG L.Tynes 28 yd. Field Goal (7-18, 4:06)

TD M.Manningham 22 yd. pass from E.Manning (L.Tynes kick) (3-28, 0:35)

 

4th Quarter

TD S.Smith 22 yd. pass from E.Manning (L.Tynes kick) (4-73, 1:58)

 

FG L.Tynes 36 yd. Field Goal (7-40, 4:47)

 

FG L.Tynes 37 yd. Field Goal (11-56, 3:40) (this is a special case so I'll leave it out)

 

 

So far we've seen 4 FGs 0 TDs (5 FG attempts - 12 points) from the Red Zone and 2 FG and 3 TDs (27 points incl. conversions) from 20-30 yards out.

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Scores in Red are snapped from inside the 20. Scores in Green are from 20-30. I'm basing this on a 15 yard snap for FG attempts.

 

vs Washington

 

1st Quarter

FG L.Tynes 28 yd. Field Goal (12-67, 7:19)

 

2nd Quarter

TD M.Manningham 30 yd. pass from E.Manning (L.Tynes kick) (6-44, 3:10)

 

TD O.Umenyiora 37 yd. fumble return (L.Tynes kick)

 

4th Quarter

FG L.Tynes 45 yd. Field Goal (8-44, 4:47)

 

FG L.Tynes 28 yd. Field Goal (10-66, 6:11)

 

 

 

 

 

vs Dallas

 

1st Quarter

FG L.Tynes 30 yd. Field Goal (9-71, 4:29)

 

TD B.Johnson 34 yd. interception return (L.Tynes kick)

 

2nd Quarter

FG L.Tynes 28 yd. Field Goal (7-18, 4:06)

TD M.Manningham 22 yd. pass from E.Manning (L.Tynes kick) (3-28, 0:35)

 

4th Quarter

TD S.Smith 22 yd. pass from E.Manning (L.Tynes kick) (4-73, 1:58)

 

FG L.Tynes 36 yd. Field Goal (7-40, 4:47)

 

FG L.Tynes 37 yd. Field Goal (11-56, 3:40) (this is a special case so I'll leave it out)

 

 

So far we've seen 4 FGs 0 TDs (5 FG attempts - 12 points) from the Red Zone and 2 FG and 3 TDs (27 points incl. conversions) from 20-30 yards out.

Nice of you to put together the stats. The Giants should be going for the end zone as soon as they get near the 30 yard line because once they reach the 20, it's all over.....well, except the "hold-your-breath" field goal attempts by Tynes.

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Nice of you to put together the stats. The Giants should be going for the end zone as soon as they get near the 30 yard line because once they reach the 20, it's all over.....well, except the "hold-your-breath" field goal attempts by Tynes.

 

This is a problem with our receivers being less experienced, so they can't get open when it comes to zone coverage... the very reason why we do good at long passes vs. short ones. Hopefully they will find a way to get this fixed.

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This is a problem with our receivers being less experienced, so they can't get open when it comes to zone coverage... the very reason why we do good at long passes vs. short ones. Hopefully they will find a way to get this fixed.

The fix is already staring them in their faces - his name is Boss! TE's are made for just that situation. Did you notice that the Cowboys had no problem throwing to Witten when they were in the red zone. There is nothing more dangerous for short yardage, especially in the ten - twenty yard gain area, than a big, tall, good catching TE.

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The easy wins: Red are snapped inside the 20, Green outside.

 

vs Tampa Bay

 

1st Quarter

TD B.Jacobs 6 yd. run (L.Tynes kick) (12-80, 6:55)

 

2nd Quarter

TD S.Smith 4 yd. pass from E.Manning (L.Tynes kick) (7-66, 4:04)

 

3rd Quarter

FG L.Tynes 26 yd. Field Goal (12-64, 7:25)

 

4th Quarter

TD S.Moss 18 yd. pass from E.Manning (L.Tynes kick) (12-72, 6:26)

 

24 points from inside 20, 0 outside.

 

 

vs Kansas City

 

1st Quarter

TD S.Smith 3 yd. pass from E.Manning (L.Tynes kick) (5-16, 2:04)

 

2nd Quarter

TD S.Smith 25 yd. pass from E.Manning (L.Tynes kick) (4-71, 1:39)

 

FG L.Tynes 25 yd. Field Goal (9-80, 1:49)

 

3rd Quarter

FG L.Tynes 40 yd. Field Goal (8-20, 4:38)

 

4th Quarter

TD H.Nicks 54 yd. pass from E.Manning (L.Tynes kick) (6-66, 2:08)

 

10 points, 17 points

 

vs Oakland

 

1st Quarter

TD A.Bradshaw 1 yd. run (L.Tynes kick) (14-77, 8:03)

 

TD A.Bradshaw 19 yd. run (L.Tynes kick) (3-79, 1:37)

 

2nd Quarter

TD M.Manningham 30 yd. pass from E.Manning (L.Tynes kick) (5-94, 1:34)

 

TD H.Nicks 9 yd. pass from E.Manning (L.Tynes kick) (3-13, 1:29)

 

FG L.Tynes 25 yd. Field Goal (3-21, 0:25)

 

3rd Quarter

TD D.Carr 12 yd. run (L.Tynes kick) (6-52, 3:18)

 

FG L.Tynes 33 yd. Field Goal (4-4, 2:16)

 

4th Quarter

FG L.Tynes 37 yd. Field Goal (11-56, 6:18)

 

34 points, 10 points

 

So for the three easy wins we had 68 points snapped from inside 20, 27 points from outside.

WORK IN PROGRESS

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Thanks for doing this, Tree. Did you notice one of your "Red Zone" TDs is a run from 19 yards out? :)

 

I remember hearing arguments about our redzone problems going back to Fassel, though. Is there something inherently wrong with the way the Giants traditionally play offense?

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vs New Orleans

 

1st Quarter

FG L.Tynes 49 yd. Field Goal (6-19, 2:08)

 

2nd Quarter

TD A.Bradshaw 10 yd. run (L.Tynes kick) (9-73, 4:59)

 

TD M.Manningham 15 yd. pass from E.Manning (L.Tynes kick) (4-37, 1:45)

 

3rd Quarter

 

4th Quarter

FG L.Tynes 38 yd. Field Goal (11-60, 2:43)

 

TD H.Nicks 37 yd. pass from D.Carr (L.Tynes kick) (3-50, 1:00)

 

14 points, 13 points

 

 

vs Arizona

 

1st Quarter

 

2nd Quarter

TD B.Jacobs 4 yd. run (L.Tynes kick) (3-29, 0:38)

TD H.Nicks 62 yd. pass from E.Manning (L.Tynes kick) (4-75, 2:09)

 

3rd Quarter

 

4th Quarter

FG L.Tynes 20 yd. Field Goal (10-42, 4:57)

 

10 points, 7 points

 

 

vs Philidelphia

 

1st Quarter

 

2nd Quarter

TD K.Boss 18 yd. pass from E.Manning (L.Tynes kick) (8-89, 5:04)

 

3rd Quarter

FG L.Tynes 42 yd. Field Goal (5-18, 2:14)

TD A.Bradshaw 1 yd. run (L.Tynes kick) (8-23, 4:06)

 

4th Quarter

 

14 points, 3 points

 

 

vs San Diego

 

1st Quarter

 

2nd Quarter

TD S.Smith 6 yd. pass from E.Manning (L.Tynes kick) (16-76,10:35)

 

3rd Quarter

 

4th Quarter

FG L.Tynes 38 yd. Field Goal (10-60, 4:42)

 

TD K.Boss 8 yd. pass from E.Manning (L.Tynes kick) (6-39, 3:25)

 

FG L.Tynes 22 yd. Field Goal (4-0, 1:07)

 

17 points, 3 points

 

So for the four losses the points are 55 to 26. The stunning stat here though is we went for 7 QUARTERS, ALMOST TWO FULL GAMES without scoring AT ALL.

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Here's how we've been doing so far:

 

Won Time of Possession: 8 of 9

 

Won Total Yardage: 7 of 9

 

Won Scoring: 5 of 9

 

Red Zone Efficiency: 41.5%

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Thanks for doing this, Tree. Did you notice one of your "Red Zone" TDs is a run from 19 yards out? :)

 

I remember hearing arguments about our redzone problems going back to Fassel, though. Is there something inherently wrong with the way the Giants traditionally play offense?

 

 

I think we have been fairly consistent in being too vanilla when we reach the 20 yard line.

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