BurnThePhilFans Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Hey I don't know about you guys, but once in awhile I check out the GMB just to see what people have to say there (I know there are alot of clowns over there). I bring this up because I am absolutely shocked to see people week in and week out mention Toomer lost a step, Toomer will retire at the end of the year, etc... The fact is that Toomer can do some things that NONE of our receivers can do. He single handedly wins us a few games a year with his amazing toe drag ability. My question is why is everyone so quick to dismiss Toomer (or want to see him retire at the end of the year)? I know he's getting up there in age and Hixon has looked impressive, but lets be honest.... like I said Toomer can do things none of our other wideouts can do and he brings experience and stability to the table. Who says he doesn't come back at the end of the year and continue to perform? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Hey I don't know about you guys, but once in awhile I check out the GMB just to see what people have to say there (I know there are alot of clowns over there). I bring this up because I am absolutely shocked to see people week in and week out mention Toomer lost a step, Toomer will retire at the end of the year, etc... The fact is that Toomer can do some things that NONE of our receivers can do. He single handedly wins us a few games a year with his amazing toe drag ability. My question is why is everyone so quick to dismiss Toomer (or want to see him retire at the end of the year)? I know he's getting up there in age and Hixon has looked impressive, but lets be honest.... like I said Toomer can do things none of our other wideouts can do and he brings experience and stability to the table. Who says he doesn't come back at the end of the year and continue to perform? Toomer is one of the all time Giants greats imo. He's no super-star but he's steady and clutch. Oh and he's a classy down to earth person too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeMesiS Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 If he's lost a step I haven't seen it. See Cincy game and tell me if he's lost a step? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virginia Giant Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 Totally contradicted himself on PTI today. Q: Do you feel the Giants are getting the credit you deserve now, (brings up power rankings). Toomer: I don't pay attention to power rankings at week 5 of the season. __________________________________________________________________ Q: Do the Giants still play with a chip on their shoulder (brings up lack of respect for being SB champs) Toomer: Well, we were 2 and 0 and still weren't first in the power rankings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
so-cal dub Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 Honestly, I dont think Toomer can make the big plays he has in the past anymore. Meaning he has lost a step. I love Toomer for what he's done for this team year in and year out, but I have to agree with the critics on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 Toomer will be our #2 until he retires. end of discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandolphScott Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 Honestly, I dont think Toomer can make the big plays he has in the past anymore. Meaning he has lost a step. I love Toomer for what he's done for this team year in and year out, but I have to agree with the critics on this one. I knew the guy lost a step in 2004 when he didn't score a touchdown the whole year. He's been a great role player since and I am very glad to see him get a ring. He is probably the best receiver in the game today who gets his feet in bounds. The catch he made against the Bengals he got 4 feet in...some receivers wouldn't even get 2 in that small area. The dude is money 20 yards and in and on the sidelines and how could anyone dis Eli's security blanket? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightFire Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 I knew the guy lost a step in 2004 when he didn't score a touchdown the whole year. He's been a great role player since and I am very glad to see him get a ring. He is probably the best receiver in the game today who gets his feet in bounds. The catch he made against the Bengals he got 4 feet in...some receivers wouldn't even get 2 in that small area. The dude is money 20 yards and in and on the sidelines and how could anyone dis Eli's security blanket? Tru dat, and remember how Eli regressed when he was injured? He has lost a step but he more than makes up for it with his clutch play. If you have a sideline throw he is the man. The whole thing about Toomer being cut or retiring has been on the GMB, and here, for a few years now but Toomer shuts his critics up on the field. Hell I remember when he had no catches for 2 games, I think, 2 or so years ago. The whole board was calling for his head but then again Tiki was getting the same treatment for quite a while also. I think most the GMB wants a player cut every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeMesiS Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 I knew the guy lost a step in 2004 when he didn't score a touchdown the whole year. He's been a great role player since and I am very glad to see him get a ring. He is probably the best receiver in the game today who gets his feet in bounds. The catch he made against the Bengals he got 4 feet in...some receivers wouldn't even get 2 in that small area. The dude is money 20 yards and in and on the sidelines and how could anyone dis Eli's security blanket? Fuck that...That catch Toomer had against the Packers in the NFC Championship was unbelieveable. Though Toomer has lost a step. He's still a great possession receiver... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGBLUE01 Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 Fuck that...That catch Toomer had against the Packers in the NFC Championship was unbelieveable. Though Toomer has lost a step. He's still a great possession receiver... TOTALLY agree. That NFC Champ game catch was phenomenal. And of course he's lost a step due to age, but he can still make those important sideline grabs like nobodys business. He hasnt lost shit in that dept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishgutmartyr Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 His contract is over after this season, isn't it? Then it's a real question. Does he even want to keep going? Even if he does, considering the young talent, how many years do you have interest in his playing? For how much? Will it even be enough for him to accept? If it's just a matter of playing out his contract, by all means keep him. But to sign him to a new one...that's not so easy. And I love Toomer as a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayD Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 It hurts my heart to even say this, but seriously I think (at the least) Hixon should be splitting time with Toomer. Maybe even knock him down to 3rd at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 Honestly, I dont think Toomer can make the big plays he has in the past anymore. Meaning he has lost a step. I love Toomer for what he's done for this team year in and year out, but I have to agree with the critics on this one. The question is are we getting value for our money. And the answer, imo, is yes. Toomer might've lost a step... damned getting old but he's a veteran who comes up big for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 I knew the guy lost a step in 2004 when he didn't score a touchdown the whole year. He's been a great role player since and I am very glad to see him get a ring. He is probably the best receiver in the game today who gets his feet in bounds. The catch he made against the Bengals he got 4 feet in...some receivers wouldn't even get 2 in that small area. The dude is money 20 yards and in and on the sidelines and how could anyone dis Eli's security blanket? Give him credit for being a team player... some WRs bitch about not getting the ball.. TO, Meshawn... etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightFire Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 His contract is over after this season, isn't it? Then it's a real question. It is so I guess this will be hard one for the Giants to figure out. There are definitely some good WR on this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 His contract is over after this season, isn't it? Then it's a real question. Does he even want to keep going? Even if he does, considering the young talent, how many years do you have interest in his playing? For how much? Will it even be enough for him to accept? If it's just a matter of playing out his contract, by all means keep him. But to sign him to a new one...that's not so easy. And I love Toomer as a player. A possibility is to resign him for 3-4 more years, that way you spread money out over those three or four years, minimizing cap hits and allowing Toomer to retire when he's ready....of course, it doesn't mean he'd be playing out that contract, though, but keeping in mind that this is Well-Dressed Amani Toomer, maybe that's the way he wants to go out, sign a contract(maybe even his current contract) and finish out the years as a Giant... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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