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Inside Slant, Notes, Quotes, Personnel, Etc.

 

By Site Staff

Giants Insider

Date: Mar 23, 2006

 

Safety Shaun Williams became the Giants' third first-round draft choice in a year to depart, all three having been either flat-out released or allowed to dangle in free agency without an offer.

 

Cornerback Will Allen (2001) became the fourth when he officially signed with Miami on Monday.

 

Previously, running back Ron Dayne (2000) was released, simply discarded when his contract expired. He was picked up for nothing by Denver, played reasonably well last season and just a few weeks ago was re-signed by the Broncos.

 

Williams, the team's first-round pick in 1998 (the 24th overall selection), was allowed to wander off into the sunset when his contract expired. He was signed by the Carolina Panthers, whose coach, John Fox, worked with him for four years until he left for Charlotte.

 

They are reunited now, though perhaps not for long. Williams has had a series of injuries - knee, hamstring - that kept him out of 28 games over the past three seasons (six in 2003, 14 in 2004 and eight last season).

 

The drafting of Williams always represented a sort of watershed moment for Giants general manager Ernie Accorsi. It was his first year "in charge," having replaced the late George Young, and the value board constructed by Young and his scouts was still in place.

 

"I knew we needed an offensive lineman in the first round," Accorsi recalled, "but I was still in awe of the work George had done, and Williams was slightly ahead of the next available offensive lineman on our rating scale."

 

That lineman turned out to be guard Alan Faneca of LSU, snapped up in the very next selection by the Steelers. He has been an almost annual Pro Bowl player while Williams never reached anything close to that level.

 

NOTES, QUOTES

 

--Among the Giants' signings of free-agent defensive backs were two who entered the league as second-round draft picks. They are Sam Madison (by Miami in 1997 from Louisville) and Will Demps (by Baltimore in 2002). Both are assumed to be instant starters.

 

--The Giants will now turn their attention to one more free-agent signing, that of Washington outside linebacker LaVar Arrington. He has interviewed with the team and his agents has begun negotiations, but one of his agents, Carl Poston, was recently suspended for two years for behavior unbecoming an agent by the NFL Players Association. That might cause Arrington to drop the Poston and his brother, Kevin, as agents.

 

The problem with the Arrington deal is the amount of money involved. He wants a $10 million signing bonus and the Giants are not prepared to do that. Arrington has threatened to use interest from Miami and Cleveland to get the Giants to move, but they have refused thus far.

 

--One of the interesting behind-the-scenes activities in the Arrington adventure is that he has been heavily recruited by Giants' MLB Antonio Pierce, who played with him in Washington until signing with the Giants last season. The two are said to be close friends.

 

QUOTE TO NOTE: "Who can say they don't want to play football in New York? It's a prestigious organization and a great area that brings so much to the table for a football player." - New Giants safety Will Demps.

 

STRATEGY AND PERSONNEL

 

-- CB Will Allen signed a four-year, $12 million deal with Miami after spending his first five seasons with the Giants.

 

TEAM NEEDS

 

1. Outside linebacker: This could change if the Giants sign LaVar Arrington, late of the Washington Redskins. They need someone who can start on the weak side, since it begins to look more and more like they'll lose Nick Greisen to free agency. He has an interest in the Green Bay Packers and a few other teams, and has told the Giants he'd like to return, but he must be paid as a starter (acceptable, since he became one) and he wants to play inside (which is not acceptable, since in their 4-3 alignment Antonio Pierce is the MLB).

 

2. Running back: What happens if an injury grounds superstar Tiki Barber? The Giants don't seem to be considering that nightmare, but behind the doors, they are trying to decide whether a first-round pick should be spent on a running back. Chances are they won't since they draft 25th and it isn't a particularly deep year for the position.

 

3. Tackle: There are still persistent rumors that the Giants plan to terminate the contract of LT Luke Petitgout, who is scheduled to earn almost $6 million in base salary this season. If they do that, a young tackle is a mandatory addition, perhaps in the draft's first round and if not, definitely in the second.

 

FRANCHISE PLAYER: None.

 

TRANSITION PLAYER: None.

 

UNRESTRICTED FREE AGENTS: CB Terrell Buckley; WR Tim Carter; RB Michael Cloud; LB Jay Foreman; LB Nick Greisen; LB Roman Phifer.

 

UNRESTRICTED FREE AGENTS (not tendered offers): WR Lamont Brightful.

 

RESTRICTED FREE AGENTS: DT Kenderick Allen; WR/KR Willie Ponder; TE Visanthe Shiancoe; WR David Tyree; CB Frank Walker.

 

PLAYERS RE-SIGNED: QB Tim Hasselbeck; OG Lewis Kelly; RB/KR Chad Morton; OT Bob Whitfield.

 

PLAYERS ACQUIRED: CB Jason Bell; S Will Demps; S Quentin Harris; CB Sam Madison; CB R.W. McQuarters.

 

PLAYERS LOST: S Brent Alexander; CB Will Allen; DT Kendrick Clancy; LB Barrett Green; OG Jason Whittle; S Shaun Williams.

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Guest Carbo
The drafting of Williams always represented a sort of watershed moment for Giants general manager Ernie Accorsi. It was his first year "in charge," having replaced the late George Young, and the value board constructed by Young and his scouts was still in place.

 

"I knew we needed an offensive lineman in the first round," Accorsi recalled, "but I was still in awe of the work George had done, and Williams was slightly ahead of the next available offensive lineman on our rating scale."

 

That lineman turned out to be guard Alan Faneca of LSU, snapped up in the very next selection by the Steelers. He has been an almost annual Pro Bowl player while Williams never reached anything close to that level.

I didn't know that. Most interesting. . . :(:chair:
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Guest Floyd The Barber

imagine the list when yet another 1st round pick, William Joseph is left out to dangle in Free Agency when his contract reaches expiration...

 

EA is a glorified PR manager...he never had the credentials to be a General Manager of a Pro. Football team...

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guess we add williams to the steady george young 1st round decline that was jarrod bunc 91, derek brown 92, dave brown 92 supp(93 1st rounder), thomas lewis, tyrone wheatley, cedric jones and ike hilliard. :doh:

wow, when you put it that way maybe we should always deal our 1st round pick.

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guess we add williams to the steady george young 1st round decline that was jarrod bunc 91, derek brown 92, dave brown 92 supp(93 1st rounder), thomas lewis, tyrone wheatley, cedric jones and ike hilliard. :doh:

 

Maybe, maybe not. Anyone who remembers George Young will remember how much he coveted those offensive linemen, especially with the state of flux our offensive line had been in.

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Maybe, maybe not. Anyone who remembers George Young will remember how much he coveted those offensive linemen, especially with the state of flux our offensive line had been in.

 

 

did you see my list? no o linemen, nothing but garbage skill guys and questionable defnsive players.

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Yea Demps was an undrafted player in 2002. McQuarters was a first round pick 28th overall in 98, not sure if he was talking about him or what. But he is definitely wrong about Demps.

 

 

It's good to see the author researched this topic before speculating further and allowing the world to see it.

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Guest nosebleed

Hopefully Ernie is on the phone trying to trade his pick or it is going to be just another worthless player.

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Guest Nutty Sack

I'll give you all a wild guess as to who will be the next first round draft pick to be left dangling out or cut ??

 

You get three guesses..........make em good now !!

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Guest Lockhart
Hopefully Ernie is on the phone trying to trade his pick or it is going to be just another worthless player.

 

 

I think you're right - th egiants should trad etheir first for some known veteran or trade down. Ernie and the first round equals disaster.

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