Lubeck Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 What are your thoughts on Joba being groomed for the rotation? Cashman said yesterday or the day before that they have a targeted series they are planning on putting him on the rotation and are working him up towards that, starting with pitching two innings last night. Is this a good idea? Who takes his place as the setup guy? Should he get some starts in the minors or just work his way up in the majors getting longer stretches in? I don't follow baseball much at all but I would think working him up in the majors would be the better way to go. If he is starting material having him come in in the 5th or 4th and finish a game, essentially playing two starters in a game, would be a way to give the bullpen rest and give Joba more innings to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virginia Giant Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 You definately do not keep a talent like that in the pen, and he;s proven he can excel at the major league level, so let him build up some innings and put him in the rotation. And i agree with you, let him finish some games or get 3 or 4 innings in the middle of a game every 3 or 4 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarence the Blue Puppet Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 As a Yankee fan I'm torn. The team NEEDS quality starters, but I'd also HATE to see him leave the bullpen. It's going to be hard to find somebody like him to pitch the eighth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feefifoefum Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 As a Yankee fan I'm torn. The team NEEDS quality starters, but I'd also HATE to see him leave the bullpen. It's going to be hard to find somebody like him to pitch the eighth. The Yankees' bigger need is for someone to get them to the 8th with a lead. What about Bruney? Why can't he pitch the 8th inning? Or that Olendorf guy, or whatever his name is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gateb Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 The Yankees' bigger need is for someone to get them to the 8th with a lead. What about Bruney? Why can't he pitch the 8th inning? Or that Olendorf guy, or whatever his name is. Bruneys out till at least September and Ohlendord is average. The departure of Joba from the pen makes the Yanks best reliever as Kyle Farnsworth, which is a real killer to the yanks chances this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feefifoefum Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 Bruneys out till at least September and Ohlendord is average. The departure of Joba from the pen makes the Yanks best reliever as Kyle Farnsworth, which is a real killer to the yanks chances this season. If they don't get better starting pitching, they have no chance anyway. Why not move him now and see what he's got for 3/4 of a season? The 8th inning role is overhyped anyway. There are plenty of guys who can come in and get 3 outs. It doesn't always have to be the same guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gateb Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 If they don't get better starting pitching, they have no chance anyway. Why not move him now and see what he's got for 3/4 of a season? The 8th inning role is overhyped anyway. There are plenty of guys who can come in and get 3 outs. It doesn't always have to be the same guy. It'll take until the all-star break i think for Joba to get set to be a starter anyway. I don't think the 8th inning is overrated. Teams that come to bat have a major sense of urgency to get some runs in with the closer looming in the 9th. And the hitters have usually had 3 ABs under their belt and are into the intensity of the game so they are locked in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feefifoefum Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 It'll take until the all-star break i think for Joba to get set to be a starter anyway. I don't think the 8th inning is overrated. Teams that come to bat have a major sense of urgency to get some runs in with the closer looming in the 9th. And the hitters have usually had 3 ABs under their belt and are into the intensity of the game so they are locked in. What's next, the 7th inning specialist? If you can get guys out, you should be able to do it in any inning. Saves used to be the most overrated stat in sports, now it's the "hold". No wait, the "pancake" is. Joba is needed more as a starter, although there is no way he will be as dominant. He won't be able to let it all hang out for 15 pitches anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ditto Posted May 24, 2008 Share Posted May 24, 2008 Wang Pettitte Mussina Rasner Kennedy Hughes It's already a crowded field. But, as Cone stated last night, it's easier to put him back in the pen later than to get him ready to start in case we will need him later. Besides, I'm curious to see what he can do as a starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarence the Blue Puppet Posted May 24, 2008 Share Posted May 24, 2008 Wang Pettitte Mussina Rasner Kennedy Hughes It's already a crowded field. But, as Cone stated last night, it's easier to put him back in the pen later than to get him ready to start in case we will need him later. Besides, I'm curious to see what he can do as a starter. Rasner being the only consistent one of the bunch. Let's hope Wang gets back on track tomorrow, and that Mussina's last outing was just one of those bad days. The offense has seemed to come alive. Only one homerun last night and they scored 13 runs. Hopefully they see that they don't NEED to rely on homeruns for runs and just start to hit the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
so-cal dub Posted May 25, 2008 Share Posted May 25, 2008 All for it. He's got good pitches, now's the time to see him work. Put it this way, if he comes out sucking ass we could always throw him back in the BP. It really is a win win for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njsmalls Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 I'm totally for it. Also, Edwar Ramirez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lubeck Posted May 29, 2008 Author Share Posted May 29, 2008 Well the sports writers and prognosticators are saying he is starting next Tuesday against the Blue Jays. I might actually watch that game. Pedro is supposed to be back that night for the Mets too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
so-cal dub Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 Well the sports writers and prognosticators are saying he is starting next Tuesday against the Blue Jays. I might actually watch that game. Pedro is supposed to be back that night for the Mets too. Yup, this coming Tuesday will be his 1st start. I cant wait to watch. Hopefully he doesn't blow, but it's a very good possibility he does being his very first start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gateb Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 Yup, this coming Tuesday will be his 1st start. I cant wait to watch. Hopefully he doesn't blow, but it's a very good possibility he does being his very first start. He's limited to 70 pitches too. a 30 pitch 1st inning would really put a damper on that. I think Halladay is pitching for the Jays too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxi-xxv Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 I am most looking forward to seeing more clips of Joba and his Dad Harlan. Its usually once, maybe twice in a 2 inning outing that we get to see it, but now as a starter we may get to hear and see kay talk about them possibly once every half inning for 7-8 innings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njsmalls Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 Joba's first start will be my first and last time at Yankee Stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandolphScott Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 I am most looking forward to seeing more clips of Joba and his Dad Harlan. Its usually once, maybe twice in a 2 inning outing that we get to see it, but now as a starter we may get to hear and see kay talk about them possibly once every half inning for 7-8 innings. If he even lasts that long. How many pitches does he have that he can throw consistently for strikes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lubeck Posted June 2, 2008 Author Share Posted June 2, 2008 Looks like I am going to be going to tomorrow nights game to see Joba get his first start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarence the Blue Puppet Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 If he even lasts that long. How many pitches does he have that he can throw consistently for strikes? He has 4 pitches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feefifoefum Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 I am most looking forward to seeing more clips of Joba and his Dad Harlan. Its usually once, maybe twice in a 2 inning outing that we get to see it, but now as a starter we may get to hear and see kay talk about them possibly once every half inning for 7-8 innings. I read in today's paper that Daddy Chamberlain won't be in attendance for the game. Aw shucks. Now we'll see 54 still shots of him after each inning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lubeck Posted June 3, 2008 Author Share Posted June 3, 2008 I'm going to be sitting in foul ball territory, upper tier box 643 tonight. Thats on the first base line. If you spot a crazy fellow in a bright yellow shirt I'm next to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gateb Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 Most overhyped start ever? All that for 2 and 1/3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarence the Blue Puppet Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 Most overhyped start ever? All that for 2 and 1/3 Yeah, as a Yankee fan, I'll say that was pretty uneventful. I turned it on in the 3rd inning and was wondering where Joba was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jranieli Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 He did not pitch bad but threw 38 pitches in the first inning. That is killer. The strike zone was terrible. He should be sent to AAA for a few starts instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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