JMFP Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 I think our speed pass rush is going to greatly helped by the Arizona field. I also think the field is going to give Ahmad Bradshaw a further advantage over the Patriots veteran but slower linebackers. I'm interested to hear what other people think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorillaNJ Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 What weather, its a dome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 What weather, its a dome So true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyHoodie Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 I think our speed pass rush is going to greatly helped by the Arizona field. I also think the field is going to give Ahmad Bradshaw a further advantage over the Patriots veteran but slower linebackers. I'm interested to hear what other people think. Hum 72 degrees, no rain, no wind, florescent lights. Game is being played indoors. Food for thought..... After the Pats-Colts game many of the talking heads said that NE as a vertical passing team would not be able to go 16-0, because the team was built for warm weather or a dome. They said the perfect season would not survive the winter weather of Mass, MD, NJ, and Buffalo because the offense would not be able to continue to score a high number of points in wind, cold or wet weather. Turns out those talking heads were not far off the mark. Although their predictions of loses did not hold true the NE offense did struggle when the weather got bad. And the scores got a lot closer. Many of those same talking heads now say that NE offense has been on the decline, discounting their own original analysis that it would. In an indoor stadium (unless the weather is really nice in which case they will keep the roof open, but that also means it is really nice weather) the NE offense could very possibly return to the form it had during the first half of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
so-cal dub Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 Arizona stadium has a retractable roof. Have they said if it will be open or closed yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyHoodie Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 Arizona stadium has a retractable roof. Have they said if it will be open or closed yet? Game day decision, by the league. But they aren't gonna make the millionaire & billionaire "fans" that don't know the difference between a kick off and punt sit in rain, cold or hot weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Arizona is a very popular retirement community. The Pats Linebacker corp might be tempted to forego the 2nd half in favor of the early bird special at morrison's cafeteria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGBLUE01 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Arizona is a very popular retirement community. The Pats Linebacker corp might be tempted to forego the 2nd half in favor of the early bird special at morrison's cafeteria. Actually, the stadiums in the West Valley, so that means the Retirement community nearby is Sun City. That means Earlls. MMMMmmmmm spicy Mexican, I dont know if Bruschi's heart can take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virginia Giant Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Definatelty helps their offense. Might hel;p our d line. I have been thinking about this a lot lately and I'm not so sure I wouldn't rather playthem in the cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMFP Posted January 29, 2008 Author Share Posted January 29, 2008 What weather, its a dome Weather, field conditions....whatever. Besides, its a retractable roof, and I wouldn't be surprised if they kept it open for some blimp shots. Either way, I think our DE's, not the secondary, will be the key to our defense. Jacksonville had a great defense, including a very strong secondary, and it made no difference because there was no pass rush on Brady. I really think a fast field plays to our favor. Osi and Strahan kill with speed more than anything else. They'll each be giving up about 50 lbs to their tackles, so I think quickness will be the big factor in getting to Brady. The defensive line did a nice job harrying Garcia is similar warm weather conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rphguy Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 I think a cold, wet, slow field would play to our favor. Equalize the offenses and I think we win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGBLUE01 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 I think a cold, wet, slow field would play to our favor. Equalize the offenses and I think we win. Well then rule AZ out. We dont know a whole lot about COLD and WET. Right now, its FREEZING...........at 48 degrees. And its about 6:45am. It'll only get up to the ripe cold temp of about 55 or 60 degrees. And the rain we've been getting lately, its dried an hour after it falls. Plus, with the retractable roof, that field is gonna be as dry as can be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rphguy Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Well then rule AZ out. We dont know a whole lot about COLD and WET. Right now, its FREEZING...........at 48 degrees. And its about 6:45am. It'll only get up to the ripe cold temp of about 55 or 60 degrees. And the rain we've been getting lately, its dried an hour after it falls. Plus, with the retractable roof, that field is gonna be as dry as can be. maybe you should break in and pull a bull durham by turning on all the sprinklers all night and setting the thermostat to 12 degrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGBLUE01 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 maybe you should break in and pull a bull durham by turning on all the sprinklers all night and setting the thermostat to 12 degrees. I think i still have my handy dandy Janitor disguise in my closet. I'll get my fake Gene Shalit moustache and head to the stadium now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 I think our speed pass rush is going to greatly helped by the Arizona field. I also think the field is going to give Ahmad Bradshaw a further advantage over the Patriots veteran but slower linebackers. I'm interested to hear what other people think. At this point, I'd like to feel that we're doomed. It's good for my psyche and it usually works in our favor at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGBLUE01 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 At this point, I'd like to feel that we're doomed. It's good for my psyche and it usually works in our favor at the end. You gotta point. Ive been telling myself all week we have no chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadEgg Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 I think our speed pass rush is going to greatly helped by the Arizona field. I also think the field is going to give Ahmad Bradshaw a further advantage over the Patriots veteran but slower linebackers. I'm interested to hear what other people think. Yes. You raise a very good point. The weather in Arizona will help the Giants speed rush, while mysteriously slowing the Patriots receiving core, forcing Brady to take sacks. Had it been warmer in the Meadowlands that last time these two teams played, I don't think the Patriots would have scored. Please keep in mind that I wrote this response assuming that the Patriots are even going to show up after the Giants wore black coming off the plane. I mean, the Patriots have some experience, but those black clothes -- I just don't know if were prepared for that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lubeck Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Please keep in mind that I wrote this response assuming that the Patriots are even going to show up after the Giants wore black coming off the plane. I mean, the Patriots have some experience, but those black clothes -- I just don't know if were prepared for that... Yeah how silly of them to show some team unity. Real team unity is getting behind a microphone and balling your eyes out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightFire Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 You gotta point. Ive been telling myself all week we have no chance. Not me. I told my dad that the Giants are going to be SB champions in 1 week. He told me that if the Giants win he would travel the 1700kms to where I live to personally kiss my feet. I told him to start walking now because the Giants are going to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishgutmartyr Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 It's going to help passing games, not necessarily running games. Being that NE has a better passing game than we do (let's not kid ourselves), the weather is not going to really help us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishgutmartyr Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 It's going to help passing games, not necessarily running games. Being that NE has a better passing game than we do (let's not kid ourselves), the weather is not going to really help us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boohyah Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 It's going to help passing games, not necessarily running games. Being that NE has a better passing game than we do (let's not kid ourselves), the weather is not going to really help us. Good response Fish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boohyah Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 It's going to help passing games, not necessarily running games. Being that NE has a better passing game than we do (let's not kid ourselves), the weather is not going to really help us. Good reponse Fish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksm7 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 I think our speed pass rush is going to greatly helped by the Arizona field. I also think the field is going to give Ahmad Bradshaw a further advantage over the Patriots veteran but slower linebackers. I'm interested to hear what other people think. the dog really doesn't see weather impacted the Patriots, since they have won in every form of weather this season...and the giants haven't seemed to be bothered as of late, so really, the dog sees weather as a non-factor...you don't get to the super bowl being a team that can't win in different forms of weather... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Lesner Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 I really don't think the weather plays any part in a game such as the Superbowl, sure weather plays its part when its week 4 and a somewhat less insignificant game, but when you are playing a game for the Vince Lombardi trophy then the elements don't come into it. You talk about the old Patriots guys tiring out, you do realize that there are probably a few old guys on the Giants team as well as the Patriots that will never see Superbowl action again, so they are going to give much more in this game then they ever have before, well at least they should be, since they should know, this is probably the last chance of Championship action they are ever going to get again. And if you want to talk about the heat being a factor, then chances are Strahan is going to tire a lot quicker against his heavier opponents then they are, because there is only so long you can go trying to beat the offensive line with speed before you exhaust yourself, no matter what the weather, the longer a game goes on, the more a defense fatigues itself. __________________ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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