boohyah Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 exactly, never seen a guy crumble from contact like him. he actually goes backwards when hit. Actually, he makes little or no attempt to juke or dodge anyone. He hits a hole, and when he sees the hole is going to be filled, he keeps running into it. A guy with his speed needs to make guys miss and he simply doens't. Look at how Bradshaw changed his direction on the kickoff and he had less space. I believe this is why you don't see Moss on punt and kick returns, because he simple cannot create anything himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 Actually, he makes little or no attempt to juke or dodge anyone. He hits a hole, and when he sees the hole is going to be filled, he keeps running into it. A guy with his speed needs to make guys miss and he simply doens't. Look at how Bradshaw changed his direction on the kickoff and he had less space. I believe this is why you don't see Moss on punt and kick returns, because he simple cannot create anything himself. The problem is we don't see him getting the shots he's supposed to for any of us to come to those conclusions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 You guys are absolutely right. If Eli could cover better, tackle in the open field, stop holding while blocking, bring down the qb when he's in the grasp, make better decisions with the playcalling, kick the ball deeper on kickoffs, and get off the field when defending 3rd down, he'd be a probowler like his brother. I'll take Eli over about 45 other QBs who have started so far this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boohyah Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 I'll take Eli over about 45 other QBs who have started so far this season. I wouldn't: Eli can't punt worth a shit and when he fills his cup with Gatorade, he spills some of it everytime. You can't have that in a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boohyah Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 The problem is we don't see him getting the shots he's supposed to for any of us to come to those conclusions. I've come to that conclusion based on what I've seen so far Nas. Perhaps if he was doing this in practice he'd be on the field more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 you'd think a guy with rice and moss in his name would have better moves. i've seen enough of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rphguy Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 On a side note, I don't understand why Sinorice Moss doesn't get more opportunities. When he gets the ball, I feel like he can take it all the way every time he touches it. yet, he never does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rphguy Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 I wouldn't: Eli can't punt worth a shit and when he fills his cup with Gatorade, he spills some of it everytime. You can't have that in a QB. are you saying that eli takes to the field with his cup filled with gatorade? that'd be awful cold. it'd make me play kinda erratic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 are you saying that eli takes to the field with his cup filled with gatorade? that'd be awful cold. it'd make me play kinda erratic. But he's always well hydrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 I wouldn't: Eli can't punt worth a shit and when he fills his cup with Gatorade, he spills some of it everytime. You can't have that in a QB. plus he looked goofy in that skullcap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boohyah Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 plus he looked goofy in that skullcap. He can't help that, Reebok would have a fit if he didn't put it on. They are already upset with Plaxico because during the Skins game he had his visor turned to the left instead of the right and now he's being punished in that he's been made wear it during the winter. Which upsets Plax because he just cut off his braids. Further note, Joe Morris took a tape measure to Shockey's socks last game and said they were 1/2 inch lower on his calf than the NFL allows. He's been fined $500k for this. Thank goodness for the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boohyah Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 are you saying that eli takes to the field with his cup filled with gatorade? that'd be awful cold. it'd make me play kinda erratic. It's Anthony Wright's job to make sure that he takes the cup from Eli's hand before he takes the field, Anthony receives his instructions by radio from upstairs from the "gatorade cup removal coordinator". Apparently Anthony is very good at this, which is why Matt Hasselbach was released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Patriot Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 He can't help that, Reebok would have a fit if he didn't put it on. They are already upset with Plaxico because during the Skins game he had his visor turned to the left instead of the right and now he's being punished in that he's been made wear it during the winter. Which upsets Plax because he just cut off his braids. Further note, Joe Morris took a tape measure to Shockey's socks last game and said they were 1/2 inch lower on his calf than the NFL allows. He's been fined $500k for this. Thank goodness for the NFL. Are you sure about this fine? I have not read in any NYC paper that it was imposed. $500 thousand for a sock size violation by the NFL seems outrageous to me. Also, who is Joe Morris and what does the NFL do with any fines that they impose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 Are you sure about this fine? I have not read in any NYC paper that it was imposed. $500 thousand for a sock size violation by the NFL seems outrageous to me. Also, who is Joe Morris and what does the NFL do with any fines that they impose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boohyah Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 Are you sure about this fine? I have not read in any NYC paper that it was imposed. $500 thousand for a sock size violation by the NFL seems outrageous to me. Also, who is Joe Morris and what does the NFL do with any fines that they impose? I was joking about the fine. However Joe Morris is real. Joe Morris was a great running back for us during the 80's. Joe does some work for the NFL, he's like a uniform monitor. How old are you Mr. Patriot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 I was joking about the fine. However Joe Morris is real. Joe Morris was a great running back for us during the 80's. Joe does some work for the NFL, he's like a uniform monitor. How old are you Mr. Patriot? You mean to ask you How YOUNG is he? US Pat is so old, he farts dust US Pat is so old, his memories are in black and white Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Patriot Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 You mean to ask you How YOUNG is he? US Pat is so old, he farts dust US Pat is so old, his memories are in black and white Prince Nas is so untruthful in everything he says/posts, that shit flies out of his mouth whenever he opens it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boohyah Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 Prince Nas is so untruthful in everything he says/posts, that shit flies out of his mouth whenever he opens it. I was just wondering since you didn't know who Joe Morris was. No biggie. Don't mind Nas, he's a hostile Arab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Patriot Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 I was just wondering since you didn't know who Joe Morris was. No biggie. Don't mind Nas, he's a hostile Arab. I knew that Joe Morris was a great Giant player. I just didn't know that he worked for the NFL. I would rather see him work for the Giants in some capacity as I believe that would be useful to the team. As far as hostile Arabs go, aren't they all that way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightFire Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 Actually, he makes little or no attempt to juke or dodge anyone. He hits a hole, and when he sees the hole is going to be filled, he keeps running into it. A guy with his speed needs to make guys miss and he simply doesn't. Look at how Bradshaw changed his direction on the kickoff and he had less space. I believe this is why you don't see Moss on punt and kick returns, because he simple cannot create anything himself. I watched the game on NFL Network again last night and I have to agree. Moss looked fast but it was like he ran right to the defender and then fell down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boohyah Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 I watched the game on NFL Network again last night and I have to agree. Moss looked fast but it was like he ran right to the defender and then fell down. If Sinorice broke into the open field, no-one would catch him. But then again, they wouldn't catch Carl Lewis either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 If Sinorice broke into the open field, no-one would catch him. But then again, they wouldn't catch Carl Lewis either. i was thinking renaldo nehemiah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boohyah Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 i was thinking renaldo nehemiah. It's Renaldo "SKEETS" Nehemiah dammit. Willie Gault was fast though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 I'm never sure if Moss is actually fast or if his tiny size just makes him look like he's fast. He certainly gets caught easy enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 I'm never sure if Moss is actually fast or if his tiny size just makes him look like he's fast. He certainly gets caught easy enough. he wears size 3 cleats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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