Lubeck Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/teamReport?ca...=NotesAndQuotes --The Giants are on the verge of making history. They signed a defensive tackle from Harvard, Mike Berg, and have converted the 6-2, 260-pounder to fullback. If he wins the job, it will likely be the first time in NFL history that an Ivy League fullback took the job away from another Ivy League fullback (veteran Jim Finn, Penn). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 That's weird, I just heard that they had worked him out but decided not to sign him. Well, I guess if he works out, that's great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lughead Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 thats just odd but the Giants are moving guys all around . Isn't there any FB's out there why try to convert a DT to FB? Maybe because it hasn't been done yet and they want to be a trend setter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virginia Giant Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 Well, he's the perfect size for a fullback, anyone know anything about him? As a DT he knows how to push people around I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/teamReport?ca...=NotesAndQuotes I read that somewhere. I thought the same thing. Finn isn't bad but I guess they're doing their due deligence to improve the position. They tried to lure that guy from Houston and it didn't work out. Maybe they know something we don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 Isn't there any FB's out there why try to convert a DT to FB? Maybe because it hasn't been done yet and they want to be a trend setter? Actually, I think the Pats did the same thing in certain packages with Dan Klecko... another undersized DT with good mobility. If I remember correctly, he was pretty decent as a FB as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 The Giants didn't sign Berg. He was an unsigned tryout, and they opted not to sign him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeMesiS Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 I've been saying it for years. Finn is as good of a FB as people think.... The Giants organization have been trying to replace Finn for years. remember when Giants tried to convince Konrad out retirement. Even though Konrad retired because of a bad back. That should tell you what the Giants org thought about Finn... And I know what people are going to say.."how do you explain Tiki having 3 great with Finn?" Umm, it was our o-line, J. Shockey vastly improving his blocking and mostly all Tiki. I have no doubt in mind if we had a decent FB in 2005. Tiki runs for 2000 yards, easily. Face it boys...Finn sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*SDMF* Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 Face it boys...Finn sucks. Thats a shitty statment Nem. If he's so bad how did he get a gig in the NFL? Obviously he doesnt suck. Afterall, he a GIANT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virginia Giant Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 Thats a shitty statment Nem. If he's so bad how did he get a gig in the NFL? Obviously he doesnt suck. Afterall, he a GIANT. Great fullbacks are hard to come by in todays NFL, and technician style FB's work well with Tiki type of runners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*SDMF* Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 Great fullbacks are hard to come by in todays NFL, and technician style FB's work well with Tiki type of runners. Thats a fair point. Granted Jacobs didnt get the ball alot. But there were sometimes when he did, we saw flashes of a solid RB with size and SPEED. And we all know who was blocking for him. Now, Im not saying Finn is the best FB out there, Not even in our division. But he's who we have, and we have other spots that must be delt with before the FB position. Can we agree on that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virginia Giant Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 Thats a fair point. Granted Jacobs didnt get the ball alot. But there were sometimes when he did, we saw flashes of a solid RB with size and SPEED. And we all know who was blocking for him. Now, Im not saying Finn is the best FB out there, Not even in our division. But he's who we have, and we have other spots that must be delt with before the FB position. Can we agree on that? Absolutely, I'm not rooting against Finn by any means, I hope he blossoms as a pro bowler this season. just have visions of BJ/Droughns following a 270 pound bull dozer, and how that would simply wear Defenses out, and 3rd and shorts would become easy conversions. By all rights, Finn is probly more valuble than biger fullbakcs because he he is a technician and perfect for smaller cut back RB's. Here's to the hope of eating crow. Oh, but as for having more important positions to fill, thats debateable. Obviously we have huge wholes, but if Finn doesn't excel at blocking for a bruiser, than we may have big problems in the running department, and if we could pick up a guy like this thread was started about a big quick guy who can move people, on the cheap, thats not really taking presedance over other areas, thats just being thrifty and finding value for low cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeMesiS Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 Thats a shitty statment Nem. If he's so bad how did he get a gig in the NFL? Obviously he doesnt suck. Afterall, he a GIANT. I've been asking myself that very same question for years.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeMesiS Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 By all rights, Finn is probly more valuble than biger fullbakcs because he is a technician and perfect for smaller cut back RB's. Here's to the hope of eating crow. If by technician you mean "He gets his ass handed to him opposing defenses." Then yes, he's very technical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lubeck Posted May 22, 2007 Author Share Posted May 22, 2007 But he's who we have, and we have other spots that must be delt with before the FB position. Can we agree on that? Um you realize that the team can work on filling holes while at the same time trying to upgrade other positions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 Maybe they should try Lorenzen at FB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*SDMF* Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 Maybe they should try Lorenzen at FB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virginia Giant Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 If by technician you mean "He gets his ass handed to him opposing defenses." Then yes, he's very technical. I'm not saying he's a good FB, but he did OK with Tiki because he got in the defrenders way enough for Tiki to cut back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gateb Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 If Finn was as bad as Nem proclaims him to be, Tiki would not have had those dazzling seasons. When did finn sign with us... 03 or 04? I think it was 04. That was when Tiki began his amazing streak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virginia Giant Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 If Finn was as bad as Nem proclaims him to be, Tiki would not have had those dazzling seasons. When did finn sign with us... 03 or 04? I think it was 04. That was when Tiki began his amazing streak. I don't think you can attribute Tiki's great seasons entirely to Finn, if any at all. thats also the time he stopped fumbling and was given a bigger work load, a much bigger work load. His Yards/Carry were always good, he just got the ball more when he stopped dropping the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 If Finn was as bad as Nem proclaims him to be, Tiki would not have had those dazzling seasons. When did finn sign with us... 03 or 04? I think it was 04. That was when Tiki began his amazing streak. The knock against Finn is he doesn't run people over. This, I believe, is a case of grass is greener on the other side. Kindda reminds me of when we let Campbell go to Dallas. Finn may not be the best FB out there, but he's the best we got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virginia Giant Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 The knock against Finn is he doesn't run people over. This, I believe, is a case of grass is greener on the other side. Kindda reminds me of when we let Campbell go to Dallas. Finn may not be the best FB out there, but he's the best we got. Of course he's the best we've got, but he can easily be upgraded. It's not a case of greener grass, it's a case of worrying about an undersized FB incapable of moving people now responsible for clearing holes for a straight ahead runner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandolphScott Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 Take Nem's opinions with a grain of salt, the guy thinks Frank Walker was a good cornerback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virginia Giant Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 Take Nem's opinions with a grain of salt, the guy thinks Frank Walker was a good cornerback. So do I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandolphScott Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 So do I. <_> To quote Albert Poo-Holes "Not good, not good at all" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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