fishgutmartyr Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 From Answers.com: Head coaches Bob Folwell 8-4-0 1925 Joe Alexander 8-4-1 1926 Earl Potteiger 15-8-3 1927-1928 LeRoy Andrews 24-5-1 1929-1930 Benny Friedman and Steve Owen 2-0-0 1930 Steve Owen 153-108-17 1931-1953 Jim Lee Howell 55-29-4 1954-1960 Allie Sherman 57-54-4 1961-1968 Alex Webster 29-40-1 1969-1973 Bill Arnsparger 7-28-0 1974-1976 John McVay 14-23-0 1976-1978 Ray Perkins 24-35-0 1979-1982 Bill Parcells 85-52-1 1983-1990 Ray Handley 14-18-0 1991-1992 Dan Reeves 32-34-0 1993-1996 Jim Fassel 60-55-1 1997-2003 *Tom Coughlin 17-15-0 2004-present; Current Giants Head Coaching record as of 1 January, 2006. I was actually looking for a picture of the original red giants uniform with the tan pants, for the uniform thread, but ran into this. So I started to play around. I counted ties as half-wins. Winning percentages of winning coaches with at least 50 games. Jim Lee Howell: .648 (Jimmy, NOW do you see why they didn't just dump the guy?) Bill Parcells: .620 Steve Owen (not including the two wins he had sharing coaching duties with Benny Friedman): .581 Jim Fassel: .522 Allie Sherman: .513 Seems like a short list, but Steve Owen was the coach for 23 years. These 5 coaches account for 52 years. I really should give Parcells a little more credit than I do. Nah. best record for a coach with at least 1 complete season: LeRoy Andrews, 24-5-1, 1929-1930: .817 best record for any coach: Steve Owen and Benny Friedman, 2-0, 1930: 1.000 ---------- The "Dark Ages of the 90's" (handly-reeves years): .469 An estimated "Dave Brown Period" (reeves seasons without 12-6 first year record-3 seasons): .417 Entire period between Parcells and 2000 superbowl 1991-1999: (71-74) .490 What I grew up with (Arnsparger, McVay, Perkins; 1974-1982): (45-86) .344 I was nice and didn't include Parcell's first season (3-12-1: making it .330). There's even a playoff year in there (10-8)! Translate this in human terms: from when I was 11 up to and including my 20th year, I saw one winning season. I guess that's why I don't think of Dave Brown as the worst I've ever seen. ---------- Finally, the great debate: Fassel years: .522 Coughlin as of the Dallas game (21-18): .538 Conclusion: It's not really fair to compare 39 games to 116; but on the other hand, Coughlin can't be completely inept. Here's what we're debating here. I went back and added up the record for Fassel 6 games into his third season. Ready for this? 21-17-1. He was a half game ahead at this point in his giants career. Each had a miserable playoff loss with no wins to this point. Why were we debating their merits again? The only difference is how they got to their records (Fassel: 10-6-1, 8-8, 3-3; Coughlin: 6-10, 11-6, 4-2). Fassel wound up 7-9 at the end of his third season, so we'll see. Well, fucking discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayD Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 Coughlins first year he had to clean up Fassels mess. If we win the division this year, it wont even be a contest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambrosio Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 take out the year coughlin went 4-12... his first year shouldnt mean much, he had a rookie qb halfway through the season and a broken team otherwise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishgutmartyr Posted October 28, 2006 Author Share Posted October 28, 2006 take out the year coughlin went 4-12... his first year shouldnt mean much, he had a rookie qb halfway through the season and a broken team otherwise Coughlin went 6-10, not 4-12, and his record is his record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 Prior to Parcells, my favorite trivia question for suffering Jets fans was: Name the only Jets coach with a .500 or better winnning percentage- Answer- Belichick- 0 and 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishgutmartyr Posted October 28, 2006 Author Share Posted October 28, 2006 Prior to Parcells, my favorite trivia question for suffering Jets fans was: Name the only Jets coach with a .500 or better winnning percentage- Answer- Belichick- 0 and 0 That's like beating a wheelchair-bound child--well done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gateb Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 Prior to Parcells, my favorite trivia question for suffering Jets fans was: Name the only Jets coach with a .500 or better winnning percentage- Answer- Belichick- 0 and 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeMesiS Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 Prior to Parcells, my favorite trivia question for suffering Jets fans was: Name the only Jets coach with a .500 or better winnning percentage- Answer- Belichick- 0 and 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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