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  1. He doesn't really need great receivers. He made Reggie Wayne and Marvin Harrison better. Like Eli, he'd rather have guys that run their routes and catch the ball than "me-me" superstars.

     

    Reggie Wayne and Marvin Harrison were both REALLY good in their own right. Sure, Peyton makes everyone around him better, but those two guys I believe could hold their own. You want to talk about Austin Collie, Pierre Garcon, Jacob Tamme, Anthony Gonzales, and so on...I'll agree. But not Harrison and Wayne.

     

    If I'm San Francisco, and if I have the cap space...I'm going full bore for Manning, Wayne, and Mike Wallace.

  2. Gotta agree with Jim here...for the most part...in that Miami, KC, and AZ are the top 3 in the mix. I really wouldn't eliminate SF so easily though. Granted, coach said Smith was the guy, but Smith is a free agent if I'm not mistaken and certainly, P.Manning is an upgrade. Throw a talented WR on that team in the likeness of Mike Wallace or even Mario Manningham to play with the pieces they already have....added to a talented offensive line? Don't know...but if the cap allows, SF makes sense to me.

     

    Manning heading to the Jets or the NFC East...I believe are last resorts if for no other reason, not to overshadow Eli, which would happen, despite Eli just coming off his second SB victory.

  3. Wayne is a FA isn't he? I don't think the money was the only issue here, not by a long shot. I read an article today that raised the question, 'What if the Colts were picking #3 overall?' or 'What if Manning was signed already for a long term deal?' Either case may have led to different decisions being made by the Colts' higher-ups.

  4. The only problem is both the Skins and the Bills have pretty much entirely different coaching staffs, in the Skins case I think not a single coach/GM that was on the team with Williams is still there so the question is asked do you penalize the current coaching staff that had nothing to do with Williams?

     

    No question the penalties would be less for Skins and Bills, but to overlook documented offenses there and to recognize documented cases in New Orleans would open themselves up to bias/favortism. If the NCAA can hammer USC after the players and coaches who were responsible for the infractions leave, then the NFL can certainly penalize a team well after the fact.

     

    A lot depends upon the investigation itself. Was it centered around the Saints or was it centered around Williams? It's difficult to tell with the media interviewing ALL previous players under Williams. Was the original investigation with the Saints and has it now been expanded? Is the meeting today with Williams and the NFL to determine how far the NFL really needs to take the investigation?

     

    My thoughts are that if there is documented cases of it in New Orleans, and New Orleans gets reprimanded...then the same should follow for any other team where there are documented cases.

  5. I don't understand how Woodson reconciles comments he's made saying, you got more if you knocked a guy out of the game or he was carted off, with other comments saying, there wasn't intent to injure someone. Everyone understands you want to make the big hit in football, everybody gets that football is a violent game whose participants accept a high risk of injury. But what you can't have are players making money off of putting people on a cart. Period.

     

    No problem for making a little monetary incentive for making a big 4th down stop, a sack, forced fumble, or INT.... all that is understandable. Getting extra dough for knocking a guy out of a game? That shouldn't happen.

     

    I think none of us want to see the game devolve into something where big hits don't have their place. The NFL has to be very careful where it's going... already, they are starting to turn into the NBA where defense is generally against the rules. Nobody wants to see a game full of penalty flags every time the QB takes a decent shot.

     

    I think the difference a lot of players are stating is that the bounties aren't affecting their play on the field. In other words, if they have a chance to hit a guy, they're going to hit a guy. They're going to hit him just as hard whether there's a bounty or not.

     

    But, those players who are talking now cannot speak for every player. The fact of the matter is that the coaches and players create an environment whereas some players could take it upon themselves to go for the bounty every week. A player could become that guy who tries to injure an opponent.

     

    With bounties, the NFL would have to rule individual players' intent on any play where the opponent is injured. As we all know, intent is difficult to judge. Which, is part of the reason bounties are not acceptable and against the rules AND furthermore, why the Redskins, Bills, and Saints should all be reprimanded harshly.

  6. I'm watching what affect this has on the other teams with which Williams has been employed. If the Saints lose a #1, than I have to believe that the Redskins and Bills should face some of the same music. I believe that that will be today's meeting with Williams. How much was this prevalent in previous teams' actions/meetings. That way, Goodell can hand down punishments to all teams at the same time.

  7. Listening to Mike & Mike this morning, Golic made this sound like nothing more than an incentive laden contract. He clearly doesn't get the fact that there are things for which incentives are not appropriate. A sack, sure. A forced fumble, of course. An interception or a specified number of tackles or tackles for loss...absolutely. Causing someone to go off on a stretcher...yeah, not so much.

     

    The point Golic was trying to make is that in his experience and to his knowledge, it didn't affect the defender's intent. The intent was to hit hard regardless, whether there was a bounty or not. I can understand that to a degree, but the bounty/bonus/incentive for causing an injury creates potential for headhunting, promotes illegal hits, and generally goes against what the league is currently trying to institute.

     

    I guess it really doesn't matter. The Saints are going to, and rightfully so, get hammered.

  8. Oh, the Saints have most definitely fucked themselves. Granted, they have no 1st rounder this year due to Ingram trade, but I've heard that they should lose next year's 1st, this year's 2nd and/or 3rd. Added to that would be fines and suspensions.

     

    I think that any fines levied against teams should also count against their salary cap.

     

    Also, you have to think about how this affects Carl Nicks, Drew Brees, Marques Colston, and Robert Meachum...all free agents they'd like to resign. Knowing the sanctions and penalties coming to NO, do these guys opt to leave rather than resign?

     

    To whomever brought up the Redskins...it's a valid point that I've not yet seen discussed by any talking heads. If they lose their 1st rounder this year and end up losing out on a franchise QB...I will laugh my silly ass off for a good solid week at the least.

  9. What are the chances if he's still available at 15, the Giants trade up to get him... Canty as good as he is.. is a bit over-priced and is putting a damper on our cap situation.

     

    Not worth the cost of moving up 1/2 a round. If he's still there in the mid 20s, it might be a bit more realistic.

  10. LOL...do you just say things that sound convenient?? If theres one thing this kid has, is GREAT instincts, and he's one hell of an athelete. Is he a bit of a head case? Yes, thats his knock. But if theres any organization that can handle someone like Burfict, its the Giants.

     

    Now, you all can read what the reporters and media say, but take it from someone who lives in the state he plays in, its not as bad as stated. Ive NEVER missed an ASU game, and Burficts is one of the better LBers Ive ever seen play. Does some REAL stupid shit, but that can be changed.

     

    Im with Pdub, wouldnt be upset at taking him, as long as its not our 1st pick.

     

    If it was one or two sources that were saying it, I might give him a pass. If there were some disagreement coming from somewhere or if there was anything being said from anywhere that was in opposition to what's been stated about him so far...then he might get a pass. But all in all, there are multiple sources claiming that he's a bit of a reckless idiot.

  11. Gmenrock

     

    I have loved Williams since day 1, lol so that's why I have a slight biased for him. But everything I've seen so far I've liked.

     

    Remember that hes extremely raw and still did a great job in his role and really helped us win the SB. As a raw rookie with no training camp or OTAs and playing on pure instincts and athletic ability.

     

    I think he'll pan out, maybe "beast" is an overstatement, so point taken.

     

    I'm really confident that Jaquain Is a good player for us moving forward. Definately a guy that's not going anywhere anytime soon.

     

    no doubt he's shown promise and is clearly in the #3 spot behind Boley and Kiwi and clearly ahead of Jones, Paysinger, and Herzlich at this point.

  12. Yep JaQuain Williams is gonna be a real nice LB for years to come for us.

     

    Jones, Herzlich, Paysinger showed us nothing. Jones wa solid on STs along with Paysinger and Herzlich flashed a few times but overall showe very little. Maybe one of those 3 step up and provide solid depth next year. It's safe to say JaQuains gonna be a beast for us at this point though.

     

    Not sure that Williams will be a beast per se, but he showed enough to evoke some confidence that he'll at least be solid. Jones, Herzlich, Paysinger...we'll know for sure after 2012/13. A shortened offseason and injuries to the starters threw these guys into a role they were clearly unprepared for. With adequate preparation and a little extra time, we'll be able to evaluate for sure. I'd still like Goff back with a draft pick.

     

    Unfortunately, this seems to spell the end for Blackburn...again.

  13. Yeah, I haven't read a single review on him that hasn't mentioned serious character flaws coupled with extreme levels of freelancing and no real discipline whatsoever on OR off the field.

     

    Sounds like more of a headache than what he'd be worth.

     

    I think we were all pleasantly surprised by our LBers this past season, especially with Goff and Sintim going down so early. Not saying they set the world on fire by any means, but they weren't as much a detriment that we all feared they'd be...and they did show improvement as the year went by. I still would like a mid round draft pick on a LB, but certainly not a first or second.

  14. At the end of the day, I'm not overly comfortable letting just Barden and Jerrigan compete for the 3rd WR spot. If Devin Thomas or Dominik Hixon come back, I'm slightly more confident that we'll be just fine without MM. I still wouldn't mind a later round draft pick on a WR.

     

    To the poster who commented that the Giants have the luxury of being able to let him walk without missing a whole lot, I agree. He was a VERY, VERY good 3rd WR. He could probably be a mediocre to good #2. If he was the least bit intelligent, he could probably be a #1 on SOME team. But I agree too with those who've said that he'll probably not reach his full potential.

     

    That said, he did some good things for us and I wish him the best...right up until we meet him again, at which point, I hope we knock his fucking head off.

  15. If Carr did in fact leave I'd personally try to get Henne if he ends up being cut from Miami, if Henne was in the mindset of accepting an obvious back-up role.

     

    I'd be okay with that, so long as he was able to grasp the offense quickly.

  16. I think Scott has a lot of upside... Yes he fumbled a couple of times but so did Bradshaw and Tiki before him.. get that fixed and we may have a really good RB in him.

     

    I'll give you that. I'd be more inclined to get rid of Ware than Scott, that much is certain. Bradshaw, Jacobs, Scott, draft pick

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