gmenroc

Like it's been mentioned, the loss of Ross and Manningham can be absorbed by guys already on the team...or at least the team thinks so. What I'm trying to say is that the Giants are prepared to replace Manningham with Jernigan or Barden and replace Ross with Prince. Now, if either of those guys don't step up into the role they've been drafted for, it's a problem. But the team has made the appropriate steps/decisions to put themselves in position to move on without them. Same might be able to be said about Goff, but to a lesser extent. Jacobs release is the one that I don't know that we're really all that prepared for.

That's the point...I think the list is lengthy of folks who would have done so...which begs the question, why the Texans didn't ask for more from the Eagles than just a 4th...which is why Giants fans are pissed off

Ryans tore an Achilles in 2010 and only played a portion of the season. He was injured a good part of last year as well. With Mario Williams playing some LB and Cushing playing well too, so that's all part of it. But given the Texans STILL took a cap hit as a result of the trade because of some signing bonus, I think the Texans got schooled on this trade. Ryans is still young and still has time to fully recover from his injuries, so long as the Eagles don't automatically clear him medically ala Steve Smith. I can't say Brandon Marshall is overrated on the field, but as a teammate, as a person, as a human...I'm not a baggage guy when it comes to the players I want on my team. So yeah, I agree, I think the Eagles got the bigger steal here.

..Brandon Marshall to Bears? Eagles gave up a 4th this year and swapped 3rds with Houston this year. Miami got 2 3rd-round picks for Marshall. http://espn.go.com/blog/afcsouth/post/_/id/35422/ryans-trade-actually-costs-texans-money

What the hell does that even mean?

not going to argue, but I couldn't disagree more.

Starter on two SB winning teams against one of the league's most potent passing offenses I think qualifies him easily as above average. While he may not have been pro bowl calibur, we certainly didn't win games in spite of him.

Last I saw he was told to test the market which leads me to believe there was some level of disagreement in contract amounts. If he's not signed, there would obviously need to be a draft pick spent on a LB. My bigger surprise is the general lack of interest in Jacobs. Sure, he wasn't phenomenal, but he's certainly a good enough role player to garner some interest I'd think.

By our standards and given our situation, yes. For them and their situation, I don't think so.

If Fleener's gone when we pick, I would agree with waiting to draft a TE. But I'm with Jim on this one. We need to draft a TE and RB in the top 3 rounds.

I'd love to bring him in for a looksee if there was any chance that we could afford him. Given our cap situation, I think we're out in the cold. If we're telling Goff to test the market and then come back to us, after he was injured all year, then I just don't see our making this kind of move. Would I like it, oh yeah. Will it happen, oh no.

Good for him. No way we were going to shell out 5 million per

I've basically just read brief bios, others' opinions, and looked at draft projections. Pierce seemed to perform at that combine amongst the top 5 or 7 RBs fairly consistently. I figured that if he was around at the bottom of the 3rd, there would be some value there. Now, I don't put all my stock in strictly combine results, but I honestly haven't had the time to go on to watching film clips. If there's a better RB than Pierce at the bottom of the 3rd, than I'd be okay with that too. On Wright, I may be stretching a bit on that one. I think he's a 4th rounder, but he could easily be a mid to high 4th rounder.

The current Broncos staff didn't exactly draft Tebow.

Coby Fleener, TE in the 1st Bobbie Massie, OT in the 2nd Bernard Pierce, RB in the 3rd Jarius Wright, WR in the 4th I'd be beyond pleased with this.

This is where I differ from the Giants and from many on SW. I would draft need in the first few rounds and BPA in later rounds. I simply don't see a 3rd WR as much of a need as a starting TE.

At this point, we NEED a RB and we NEED a TE. Though I don't totally agree with BPA approach (I'm more of a hybrid...draft for needs in early rounds 1-3, then BPA in later rounds), I think the Giants front office do. That said, if you can fill a need AND draft BPA, then you're doing well on draft day. If we draft Fleener on draft day at 32, he could easily be the BPA at that spot AND fill a need for us. I think this is proven by the fact that despite the Marcellus Bennet signing, most mocks are still pegging us with Fleener. Add to that, the fact that the value of RBs continue to fall. Not that you don't need them, but considering the league continues to be more pass-happy AND the fact that RBs don't last as long as other positions due to the abuse they take...the position has just lost value. For that reason, I don't see a #1 being used for RB. I think we could easily snag a RB with our #2. As for the WR, I think we could answer the loss of Manningham with either a guy we already have, just as we did with Cruz OR we could get a vet and damn near minimum to step in. Either way, I don't see a draft pick spent here unless it's much later rounds. As for being okay with the O line as is, I think we need to find an OT at some point. Diehl has been around for quite some time and he's been more valueable than many give him credit for. His flexibility has gotten us out of more than one sticky situation. I think he'll be fine at RT in a competition with Brewer. Bottom line is that we have starters across the board, but depth on the interior is much, much deeper than depth on the outside.

I too think a HEALTHY Hixon or Thomas would be sufficient as a 3rd WR. The problem is that to me, they equate to outside guys and would almost force Cruz into the slot in 3WR sets. Putting all 3 on one side would be an interesting formation though. But anyhow, in my mind, I think the 3rd WR is the intermediate, possession type receiver. That's just kinda how I envision them. I think that Cruz was that guy at first, and blossomed into the guy his is now. I think Smith was that guy and could step into that role again if called upon. A TE and 3rd WR in a general sense, pull the coverage into the middle of the field, opening up the outside. Classic example was the pre-Shockey Giants. Had good WRs, but they got immensely better once Shockey drew coverage. I'm not a stat guy, but it'd be interesting to see how well our WRs did in games where the TE was involved early. Might be tough to dig that one up, though.

I doubt Tebow goes to Jacksonville for the fact that they have Gabbert and Henne to battle for the starting spot, with the loser going to the backup role. Right now, Tebow, Alex Smith, Tannehill (draft pick) and even David Garrard are the QBs who are being mentioned. Cleveland, Miami, and San Francisco are destinations that need a starting QB this year. Miami may still have a shot at Tannehill in the draft. Cleveland obviously has a shot at Tannehill, but to use their first, first rounder on him would be too high. San Francisco would obviously be best off re-signing Alex Smith, and to be honest, he'd probably be best off signing back there. That said, we'll see how much of the bridge has been burned by their persuing Peyton.

Kaepernick or something like that would be my guess...that is unless they pick up the soon to be traded Tim Tebow.

I think Peyton would like to stay out of the NFC for the reasons stated, that he doesn't want direct competition against Eli and in hopes for a Manning/Manning SB. That said, I think a Manning/Manning NFC Championship would be good enough and that chances of a superbowl, period, trumps chances of a superbowl against his brother. The 49ers snuck in here because they were a very talented team that was lacking quality WRs and a quality QB. Arguably the best QB to play the game over the past however many years became available. I've been asking all along why the 49ers weren't in the mix. Turns out they were.

And really a 1-move one at that...we all know Osi wants the big deal, but sitting, waiting, might cause him to check his ego a bit.

Anyone know the details of the deal or what his previous 1 yr tender signing was for? Just trying to see how much it might have saved us this year.

JPP is a FA in 2015....http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-york-giants/

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/16/panthers-sign-haruki-nakamura-to-three-year-deal/ Nakamura and Amakamura in the same secondary would have been too much for me to pass on.