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there best bet at this point is Torry Holt...the other two would cost way too much, and WR is not an area where you should spending a lot of money. Again, my opinion only.

Does anyone know if he is speedy at all? I already know he has good hands

MBIII has too much guaranteed money to be moved. He signed a huge deal last year, so they can't trade him without absording something like $12 million.

Money!! What's up bro? You back for good?

Good find Plax

Thanks buddy

Now they only have one overatted Roy Williams

hahahaha. LOL

Giants Bank On Talent To Overcome Inexperience

By Jason Cole, Yahoo! Sports

There is a derisive remark by veteran poker players when they see novices get a good run of cards: You can’t bluff against a royal flush.

 

In other words, all the skills and thinking that go into the game can’t beat great cards.

As the New York Giants stockpile talent in their defensive front seven during free agency, some coaches around the league believe there’s a cover-up. The feeling is that the franchise is doing its best to build a strong hand to make up for inexperienced Bill Sheridan, who was named defensive coordinator after Steve Spagnuolo was hired as head coach by the St. Louis Rams in January.

 

“Frankly, I don’t know anything about Bill Sheridan and what kind of tendencies he might have,” an NFC offensive coordinator said. “I don’t have the first guess what he’s going to do on third-and-6 or third-and-3. … But I can tell you this: With the guys he has now, he can pretty much do anything he wants.”

 

So far this offseason, the Giants have brought in defensive tackles Chris Canty (six years, $42 million) and Rocky Bernard (four years, $16 million) and speedy linebacker Michael Boley (five years, $25 million) to bolster the front seven. The Giants even talked about signing prized free-agent defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth before the price got too high.

 

Thus, the plan is obvious.

 

“There’s no doubt: They’re trying to load up with as many good players as they can to help the coach, make it as easy as you can on everybody,” said Baltimore Ravens quarterbacks coach Hue Jackson. “You want to do that any time, with any coach, whether that guy has been around a long time or not. But this is a way of making it that much smoother a transition. Don’t make it hard for a guy who hasn’t had a lot of experience.”

 

Sheridan, 50, had served as the team’s linebacker coach the previous four seasons. He was promoted from linebackers coach, where he had served with the Giants for four seasons. Before that, he spent 20 years in the college ranks as a position coach at Maine, Cincinnati, Army, Michigan State and Michigan.

 

In that time, Sheridan has never been in charge of calling plays or making strategic decisions, particularly on the fly. Spagnuolo also didn’t have any NFL coordinator experience when he took over the Giants defense in 2007 and helped them win the Super Bowl. But Spagnuolo had at least been a defensive coordinator during three previous stops in his career in college and NFL Europe.

 

More important, Spagnuolo had a defensive line that featured Michael Strahan, Osi Umenyiora, Justin Tuck and Mathias Kiwanuka, although Kiwanuka was injured midway through the ’07 season.

 

“Spags is a great example of what you’re talking about,” an AFC head coach said. “He’s a really smart guy and came up with some great schemes, particularly as they got through the playoffs. But when you have [strahan], Umenyiora and Tuck, drawing up schemes is the easy part.”

 

Conversely, drawing up schemes is hard is when a new coordinator is working with a limited group. In 2007, San Francisco was in the midst of going through its third offensive coordinator in three years and head coach Mike Nolan hired Jeff Hostler from within. Hostler, who had been the quarterbacks coach, had no experience as a coordinator and was following experienced offensive coordinators Mike McCarthy and Norv Turner.

 

Worse, he had little talent on hand. Running back Frank Gore was coming off a monster ’06 campaign, but the rest of the skill positions featured quarterback Alex Smith, tight end Vernon Davis and wide receivers Arnaz Battle and Darrell Jackson, whose production waned with the Seattle Seahawks before he joined San Francisco.

 

By late October of that season, there was little or no trust in Hostler’s ability among players such as Gore.

 

“Norv Turner, he’s been doing it for a while,” Gore told the San Francisco Chronicle at the time, referring to the previous season. “Whenever he said something, we wanted to do it. Now I feel that a lot of people, when [Hostler] calls something, it gets in the back of their heads, ‘Is he calling the right play?’ ”

 

Ultimately, the 49ers finished 5-11 that season and Hostler was fired following the campaign.

 

While Sheridan certainly has much more talent than Hostler did with the 49ers, the confidence issue has yet to be tested. This is the pitfall any inexperienced coach faces.

 

“That’s a pretty natural fear, and I’m sure that [Giants head coach] Tom [Coughlin thought about that. He sees the big picture,” the NFC offensive coordinator said. “But knowing some of their players the way I do … Tuck, [Kiwanuka] and [umenyiora] are all really professional guys. They know how to work, they know what it takes to win and they know how to lead. They’ll keep everything under control.”

 

Aside from the Giants’ 4-3 scheme, Sheridan has a background in 3-4 defense from his two years of working with Alabama coach Nick Saban at Michigan State. Saban is a disciple of New England Patriots coach Bill Belichick, who has specialized in alternating defenses depending on the situation.

 

Now, Sheridan will have the same options. Adding Canty and Bernard to a group that already includes Tuck, Umenyiora, Kiwanuka, Fred Robbins, Barry Cofield and Jay Alford gives the Giants multiple options.

Tuck and Kiwanuka have played defensive tackle in pass-rush situations. Canty played defensive end in the Dallas Cowboys’ 3-4 defense and has the size (6-foot-7, 299 pounds) and athletic ability to make him an ideal fit at any spot except right end in a 4-3 defense. Kiwanuka’s natural position is right end, but he can also stand up and play outside linebacker. Both Tuck and Umenyiora, who is coming back from knee surgery, are former Pro Bowlers.

 

In other words, Sheridan has a pretty good hand to play.

 

“How bad is it going to be? I mean, you can run any front you want with those guys,” the NFC coach said. “Heck, I’d take that job right now – and I haven’t coached defense since I was in college.”

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Well is wasn't like Spags was expieranced 2 years ago, and he did a great job with talent. Only time will tell

Roy Williams, gone in Dallas.

 

Seemingly they asked Tiki to come down so as he was leaving, he could hold on to the neck in his sweater.

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

I didn't know he had a brother?

You put WAAY to much emphasis into a crybaby whiny bitch. I believe not only would Eli not be affected by him, Jacobs would stomp him the fuck out.

lol... i know what he's trying to say though. He's had 3 qb's, and 3 failures. Jerry Jones and the Cowboys even failed. I don't think we could do anything any differantly then either of those 3 clubs. I want our Plax back

Washington already declined

wow. That's a shocker

There's only one destination for TO

 

Thanks. Now I'm going to have nightmares.

That is one ugly mo fo that would make Freddy Krugar cringe

I say Washington cause D-Snyder is a prick like TO. Plus TO, Moss, Randal El., and Cooley would make the Skins offense great with Portis in the backfield. Also TO is going to want revenge on both the Eagles and Cowboys. Last but not least, TO likes to be in the NFC East because he loves hurting the Giants everytime he plays us

Depending on our draft, I might consider Torry Holt. I consider him stop gap for the time being, but I doubt Plax will play this year and if he does go to jail, he won't be in shape to play this season until the end and then we'll see if Reese really keeps hiim.

 

I say we use hiim and trade him off is what I expect. Just enough to get his value back up while we seek a non-douchebaggy kind of dude. You don't get another chance in our franchise and that's that. No act of contrition will cover it and we should all just prepare for it now.

 

As for Torry, he would be good and I could live with him for a 3 year contract, see if he works out and then draft our asses off at WR and TE

Isn't he as old as dust? It seems like forever ago when he was a Ram

It's not that bad of an idea if it's heavily incentive based. He's a great competitor on the field and just hates losing. With a strict coach and a last chance contract I doubt he'd fuck up again. Hell he wasn't that bad in Dallas he just felt that he was their best opportunity to win. The only concern I would have is if he is lagging and not very good anymore. Also does this mean Reeves may come back to Dallas?

Um if it's incentive based, and he's not getting his touches then he'll go crazy on Eli. And you know that

we should trade kiwanuka and a #2 for Janikowski.

:brooding:

Your sarcasm is brutal at times. LOL

He would be the best example of best "risk/reward".

 

He could be the next Randy Moss in my opinion, but his college production does worry me and I am not convinced with him being a natural "hands" receiver.

 

That is the reason I feel Nicks would be best for the G-men.

 

He could come in day one and produce much like Boldin did in AZ.

 

I think Nicks would put up close to 1k receiving his first year in this offense.

What about trading up for Darrius Heyward-Bey, WR, Maryland? Is he NFL ready yet?

I agree.

I know it's hard to kick in our stadium, but I know we could find a clutch kicker. Tynes played in like 2 games last year, and didn't he miss the extra point? Lol. I Robbie Gould plays great in windy ass chicago stadium. Kickers are a lot more important then people give them credit for. Think of it this way. Every missed field goal, not only does the opposing team get good field position, but momentum and if it's by 8 or less keeps the opposition in the game. I know that everyone already knows what it means to miss a field goal, but almost everyone i talk to is like, "nah, you don't draft kickers. Kickers aren't worth it." Well I think that's b/s. I'm tired of heart-wrentching games like that Seattle game with Feely, or every missed FG by Tynes versus the Pack, or Tynes misses versus Philly in the playoffs. I'm tired of it

Neither one can make the big kicks....Accorsi basically said in that book if Feely had beaten Seattle, he'd still be the Giants placekicker, which I believe is also why we said our goodbyes to Carney even though he basically outkicks Tynes in every facet except kickoffs...

There needs to be a change.

There is no way the FO uses back to back number ones on the same position, especially S.

 

The defense is pretty much done for this off season, it is clear WR is the best value at the bottom of the 1st.

 

I still think the FO will move up and get hicks as he is their number target in the draft and is the one receiver that is ready to produce from day one.

 

Britt won't be there, he may not even be there by our pick in round one.

Robiskie may be there by 2a.

 

Ramses Barden is too much of a project and you can look how long it took Vincent Jackson to develop for an example.

We could get Nicks without trading up, but what do you think of this guy? Everyone here says he might be the best WR in the draft right now.

19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Darrius Heyward-Bey, WR, Maryland

With the news that the Buccaneers have an interest in Raiders running back Michael Bush, expect Tampa Bay to bypass the RB position in the first round and opt for a playmaking wideout. The Buccaneers need to add a vertical threat to their passing game, and Heyward-Bey fits the bill with his 4.3 speed.

I mean, we have 9 picks. Why can't we get a good kicker that doesn't miss FG's when it's windy like Robby Gould. Even Nick Folk isn't that bad. Or the guy from the Pats

I've always found it kind of silly to draft kickers......I think Tynes can do it....but after reading Accorsi book about being The GM, I have to wonder what their real plans are for Tynes...in his book, Accorsi talks about Feely and the fact that eventually he was gonna be asked to win another game and if he couldn't do it in Seattle, how could they rely on him any other time? I feel like they must feel the same way about Tynes...

Tynes = Feely

I want a better kicker. I don't care how we do it, but it needs to be done

I'm down for useing a late pick for a kicker. I don't like Tynes. He was incosistent last year, he even missed some extra points, and almost even blew the game versus the Packers last year in the NFC Championship game?

Discuss

Naw man, they created this awesome invention called Direct TV and NFL Sunday ticket...essential to every football fan...in which you can watch your favorite team every week and you get to DECIDE which top notch matchup you want to view after your game airs!

That invention is to expensive. My girl would kill me if I spent money on that. lol

i would trade kiwi for edwards or boldin in a NY minute.

I'd rather give up a couple picks then give Kiwi up.

I just have this feeling the boys are going to fall apart this year

the Eagles got rid of so many people and haven't replaced squat. I dunno. They'll both be fighting for last, lol

I think it will be:

Giants

Skins

Eagles

Boys

I have Boys at 3rd and Eagles at 4th