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Oh and this does matter. Our horrible home fanbase not only is a major eyesoar and embarassment for home games on national tv (it makes new york and the franchise look bad) but is it no wonder the Giants usually suck at home lately? Maybe it is because NOBODY fears the Meadowlands, the crowd, and the hostile environment.

New York is a huge market...the fact that DURING football season the team which has been here since 1925 was overshadowed by baseball and the 1960 Jets who didn't make the playoffs...to me...speaks volumes about our base...and lack of passion...and I am very disappointed to be associated with it. You all could learn a thing from Philadelphia's passion...or Boston. We all know baseball rules Boston...yet living there I can tell you football was and is huge in a way at least if wfan and fan attendance shows it is not in New York.

Fantasy football doesn't count...and anyway since you got some computer smarts (the smarts you have) to go with your computer toughs...you probably have made a nice forgery in any event.

It's not my biggest problem...but it's certainly one of the more disappointing ones...and it has been an ongoing theme all year. I thought the Giants ruled NFL in New York....it seems to me New York=baseball and Jets.

BULL...read the BBI posts...I could see them EVERYWHERE. It's a running joke on all the philly boards and across the NFL. Pathetic.

I would've if I could've but I've been a fan too long..it would make sports meaningless. You'll just have to cope with me on your side.

I don't live in CT full time...I'm down in VA. You sure talk tough online...maybe you were picked last in gym.

http://corner.bigblueinteractive.com/index...p;thread=321670

I bet there were maybe 100 Giants fans there.

Yep...I've seriously considered before dumping the Giants for this reason alone. It's pathetic that a New York team gets this lack of support. I like the Yankees and Rangers...and they don't have this problem...just the Giants. New York=baseball town and Jets town. Sad.

Hmmm....maybe because I don't LIVE nearby...and frankly...this isn't a small market....a defending super bowl team who is the top seed playing the biggest market that has been around EIGHTY years should NOT have a problem filling seats with their own base. Answer my question...why is it 2006 when the Giants played in Philly for the playoffs...there were NO Giants fans...yet at this game there were TONS? Go read on BBI the posts from those who went http://corner.bigblueinteractive.com/index...p;thread=321661

Don't defend our STHolders. There were EASILY 10,000 Eagle fans...and frankly that might be an underestimate. I'm trying to remember the last time any self respecting fanbase had THAT many road fans for a playoff game much less the DEFENDING champs who are the one seed in the number one US market? Don't we have a list of 20,000 for STHs....where's the loyalty amongst our ticket holders and our fanbase?

All season I have been amazed at listening to wfan and being on the fringes of the tri state area at UCONN at how little buzz there has been on the Giants. More often than not callers on wfan care more about baseball or the "supposed" number two team in town, the Jets and Brett Favre, than the Giants. For a team on an exceptional run, I really didn't see much Giants paraphinalia this year as I know I would see if the Skins/Cowboys/or Eagles won it all. In CT I see tons of Yankees/Red Sox/Celtics...that's right...more Celtics than Giants. Further, the Giants didn't really have that Steeler/Eagle like invasion of other stadiums. The worst offense though, and I am not too surprised, came today. You could clearly tell there were tons of Eagles fans at Giants Stadium. Completely unacceptable. I heard all kinds of whinning about PSLs...well maybe it will get the old farts who sell their seats and don't make noise out of the house, because this was absurd. I'm sure I'll hear the excuses of "well the Eagles are really on a roll and have pumped up their base" or "it's the economy" but since when has a number one seed, defending champion, been owned like this in their own house? You could not avoid seeing patches of green EVERYWHERE...and I heard FLY Eagles FLY chants were all over post game. I remember in 2006 when the Giants played the playoffs in Philly...you heard a pindrop when the Giants scored. Ok fine...Philly is a dump where you risk your life rooting for the road team. But how on Earth does the alleged number one team of New York, the one seed, in the nation's biggest market, at home after a bye with number seed allow at least 10,000 Eagle fans to flock in on short notice unless quite simply Giants ticket holders are weak/greedy/fickle sell outs who nobody is afraid of? This just goes to prove to me that New York is a baseball town tried and true and football in New York=baseball in Philadelphia. I don't want to hear about Boston and Patriot fans being front runners...New York had no excuse for an invasion of this sort in the regular season much less playoffs. This just is not that good a football town or base. You'd expect this from Atlanta, but not big market, old school New York. I laughed at YOU Giant fans last year calling Boston a fickle, bandwagon football town. Let me tell you I have lived by DC and in Boston. If the Skins won the super bowl and were the number one seed...you would NOT have seen this crowd of road fans. In Boston...the Pats are constantly talked about on Weei...on WFAN all I hear is baseball/jets/giants/cowboys. If anything would have me ditch the Giants for the Pats...it's the fact I hate rooting for a team that plays in a big market that has been around for 80 years which has SUCH fickle fans. 10,000+ Eagle fans. Really guys....are you serious? Whatda football town we got.

Do the Giants have a base there? Is the Skins prescene largely diminished?

What was the split? Did most go for the skins or was it 50-50 skins and falcons? Atl is closer...so why did the skins have a lot there? Do the skins retain many fans there or is the base diminished...and did it happen overnight or not till Fox and them went to the SB?

I've developed one ever since that 05 playoff game..and his cockey ass was saying how he knows the groundskeeper and our stadium. Fuck John Fox....I hope he gets his ass canned along with Delhomme. Fuck 'em.

You guys do feel this is a major loss...but other than losing a player in pre season against the Jets...it has little similarities to 1998 because the division, schedule, and team is much better than in 1997?

How did Tyree and Merrimam get injured? As I recall...both played in the playoffs...it is not like they suffered injuries in games. I NEVER understood how in baseball...pitchers like Schilling and Robb Nen had injuries IN THE offseason...how did this happen in football?

1998...Giants coming off surprise year in 1997...then lost their best player...Sehorn...in the Jets game. They were a young team on the uprise...only to finish 8-8...after a strong finish to an average, ugly year. This year...we came off a SB in 2007....lost Osi to the Jets....I'm REALLY worried we are stuck with another 1998 and Osi will have his career ruined like Shehorn.

Yeh..but it sucks we're now the number 2 story behind the Jets in NY..let alone in the NFL. When you win...you usual get the glory..and that's what sticks. We got a parade..and then next week were dismissed again.

I don't care if he/anybody disagrees...I was curious on others take on this issue...by all means share.

What's that have to do with the thread/subject in question?

Winning a title is great, but normally what's great, for me, is the months of dominance. You come into the season hyped, you win games early on, and the aura around just continues to grow. You face a challenge, go up, go down, but in the end, you win it all making it a total cumulation of a season of excellence. You get your parade and your the toast of town and the league, hyped, talked about, sizziling. I feel with the Giants, we get the title, but we didn't get the sizzle. We went through a year were we got picked to finish near the bottom. We started off horrible...then progressed...only to tail off with some ugly losses before straightening up then rolling in the playoffs. The Giants got a great celebration...yet they hardly were given much of a sizzle. The Steelers won it as a wild card two years earlier...and the town, league, went nuts...the Giants hardly matched it. Aside from the 60 minutes of 4 playoff games, and parades, there never has been in my view a less cherished champion in modern history. I remember with the Yankees winning...they were the toast of town and baseball. It really is disappointed to me...I'm glad to have won a title, but I feel we as fans got shafted. It's like marrying the woman of your dreams but having the wedding and honeymoon be really lame. No sooner did the Giants win...the talk went back to Dallas...the experts continued to rate the Giants as a middle contender...and then the Jets stole the show. I'm happy we won...but really this sucks. The Eagles get glorified for winning a division..we win a super bowl...and are treated like we lost in round two both by the NFL and NY media. They say you don't sell the steak...you sell the sizzle. The Giants title was the steak...but it's not the same...it's not as fun and almost...spoiled...without the sizzle. Anybody understand or feel this way?

Baltimore always has been a football town, that gets swamped with baseball fans from New York, always has been. In the 90s they had no football team and DC had no baseball team, Cal Ripken had the streak and the park was new=sellouts. That was a product of circumstances and not representative of the Mid Atlantic which is really a shitty football only region.

I've often felt when looking at Rivera, while he's been awesome and was so huge in the 1996-00 teams, I still felt we could have won at least one if not three more titles had he not choked. In 1997 he blew game 4 when the Yankees would have swept the series. In 2001 there was game 7 of the WS, and in 2004 he walked the leadoff batter in the 9th and blew back to back save aginst Boston in the 3-0 collpase. I felt those three years were a major blemish and made it for to fully embrace his career. I am thinking different now after seeing Hoffman. I realized being a close is like nothing else, you are not going to be perfect. The best hitters strike out, leave guys on, the best defenders boot balls, and the best starters get rocked. The same happens with closers, except with them it is a lot worse because when they suck...they blow the game...literally. They come in with a lead or tie score and if they stink they give up the lead if not the loss...and I think it's that nature of the position which made it tough for me to see just how special Mo has been a closer. How many times did Babe Ruth strikeout or drop a ball? How many times did Bob Gibson give up three runs in an inning? Yet with a closer, you make a blunder, you blow it all in the most biggest time of game.