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  1. Scheffler was just on that mcafee show saying it’s us and the Vikings trying hardest to move up.
  2. I’d say worse. I’d rather read a bunch of forum fights about Eli/gallery/taylor than a bunch of fan accounts with blue checks making shit up every day to build a following
  3. Dan Duggan’s ideal draft. Sorry for weird copy/paste but the athletic link is pay walled. New York Giants general manager Joe Schoen clearly read my ideal draft proposal last year, as he followed my recommendation to take Maryland cornerback Deonte Banks in the first round and Minnesota center John Michael Schmitz in the second round. We’ll see whether Schoen sticks to my script again. It’s important to note this isn’t a mock draft. I adhered to Dane Brugler’s player rankings to keep the targets realistic with each pick, but this is how I hope things would play out if I were running the Giants’ draft. GO DEEPER NFL Draft 2024 ‘The Beast’ Guide: Dane Brugler’s scouting reports and player rankings There’s a twist with this year’s exercise running on two tracks, so it will read like a choose-your-own adventurebased on whether a trade-up for a quarterback in the first round is possible. ROUND PICK OVERALL NOTES 1 6 6 2 15 47 From Seahawks 3 6 70 4 7 107 5 31 166 From 49ers through Panthers 6 7 183 Round 1 My top priority in the first round is to trade up for North Carolina quarterback Drake Maye. The catch is that might not be possible if Maye goes No. 2 to the Washington Commandersor if the New England Patriots aren’t willing to trade the third pick. If Maye is available at No. 3, I’d make an aggressive pitch to the Patriots. My lowball offer would be the Giants’ first-round pick (No. 6), second-round pick (No. 47) and a 2025 second-round pick. I doubt that would be accepted, however. My maximum trade offer would be No. 6, No. 47, a fourth-round pick (No. 107) and a 2025 first-round pick. GO DEEPER NFL Draft: Are Schoen, Giants truly 'comfortable' with Daniel Jones? They might have to be I used the New York Jets’ trade-up from No. 6 to No. 3 with the Indianapolis Colts in the 2018 draft as a guide for the trade compensation. The Jets traded No. 6, two 2018 second-round picks (No. 37 and No. 49) and a 2019 second-round pick to move up to No. 3. The Giants could have duplicated that package before they dealt their other second-round pick, No. 39, to the Carolina Panthers in the trade for Brian Burns. The lack of an extra second-round pick this year would likely raise the cost in 2025 to a first-rounder. ADVERTISEMENT I can already hear the cries about giving up too much in the trade. But I’m a believer in the philosophy espoused by Buffalo Bills general manager Brandon Beane on how much he gave up to trade for quarterback Josh Allen in the 2018 draft: “I’m like, ‘Well if he doesn’t work out, I’m not going to be here anyway. If he does work out, nobody’s going to give a s—.’” If Maye realizes his upside, no one will care about how much I spent to trade for him. If he doesn’t pan out, I could live with knowing I took a swing to land a quarterback with the potential to be elite. If a trade doesn’t materialize, I’d pivot to a wide receiver. The Giants can’t go wrong with LSU’s Malik Nabers or Washington’s Rome Odunze. I’d give the edge to Nabers because of his game-breaking big-play ability. GO DEEPER Giants mock draft analysis: Dane Brugler on how WR Malik Nabers, QB Michael Pratt fit in New York Round 2 I’d spend the second round watching Maye highlights if I executed the first-round trade. If I took Nabers in the first round, I’d go for the best player available at No. 47 with a lean toward defense. The Giants need starters at defensive line, cornerback and safety, and this is the last pick at which it’s realistic to expect to land a Week 1 starter. Michigan’s Mike Sainristil, Missouri’s Ennis Rakestraw and Iowa State’s T.J. Tampa are cornerbacks projected in this range. Clemson’s Ruke Orhorhoro is the top defensive tackle in this range, and Washington State’s Jaden Hicks and Georgia’s Javon Bullard are possible safety targets with this pick. Cornerback is a premium position, and it’s unsettled for the Giants beyond Banks. I’d love to come out of the second round with a corner like Tampa to pair with Banks for years. Round 3 Whether I traded for Maye wouldn’t change the priority much at pick No. 70. But if I landed Maye, I’d be more apt to consider a trade back to recoup the fourth-round pick lost in the deal. This pick could be used on a wide receiver, tight end or a variety of defensive positions. South Carolina’s Xavier Legette and Washington’s Ja’Lynn Polk are wide receivers projected in this range. Penn State tight end Theo Johnson could be another pass-catching target with this pick. Defensively, Florida State defensive tackle Braden Fiske, Penn State edge rusher Adisa Isaac, Minnesota safety Tyler Nubin and Utah safety Cole Bishop could be targets at No. 70. ADVERTISEMENT Nubin stands out among that group as an NFL-ready prospect who fits new defensive coordinator Shane Bowen’s scheme. The Giants have a void at safety after letting Xavier McKinneywalk in free agency, so they need to address the position in the draft. Round 4 This pick would be included as a sweetener, if necessary, to move up for Maye. In the non-trade scenario, my target with the 107th pick would depend on what was acquired earlier. If I addressed the secondary on Day 2, I’d shift my focus to offense. Running back, guard and tight end make sense as targets in this range. Wisconsin’s Braelon Allen could be added to the Giants’ new running backs committee. Kansas State’s Ben Sinnott or TCU’s Jared Wiley are tight ends projected in this range. Maryland’s Delmar Glaze, Wisconsin’s Tanor Bortolini and Missouri’s Javon Foster are potential offensive line targets with this pick. Taking a tight end with upside like Sinnott would be appealing with Darren Waller’s days appearing numbered. Round 5 Every general manager contends that his draft philosophy is “best player available.” A dirty secret is that need is very much factored into picks. But at this stage of the draft, it’s truly about taking the best talent, since the odds of finding an impact player are remote. The Giants need depth everywhere, so any position could be in play late in the draft. Purdue’s Tyrone Tracy and Louisville’s Isaac Guerendo could provide value at running back at pick No. 166. Clemson’s Xavier Thomas and Troy’s Javon Solomon are edge rushers projected in this range. Guerendo’s 4.33-second 40-yard dash speed could add a big-play element to the backfield and at kick returner. Round 6 The Giants don’t have a seventh-round pick after trading it for linebacker Isaiah Simmons in August, so pick No. 183 is their final selection. Again, the focus is on traits that could enable a player to make the roster as depth this late in the draft. Illinois’ Keith Randolph is a 6-foot-3, 296-pound defensive tackle who could compete for a backup spot. ADVERTISEMENT I’m not comfortable ignoring the offensive line in this draft, but something has to give with only six picks. The Giants have drafted four offensive linemen in the past two drafts and signed a handful of cheap free agents this offseason, so that group will need to compose the O-line depth this season. Final draft card, QB version: First round: Drake Maye, QB, North Carolina Second round: Traded Third round: Tyler Nubin, S, Minnesota Fourth round: Traded Fifth round: Isaac Guerendo, RB, Louisville Sixth round: Keith Randolph, DL, Illinois Final draft card, no-QB version: First round: Malik Nabers, WR, LSU Second round: T.J. Tampa, CB, Iowa State Third round: Tyler Nubin, S, Minnesota Fourth round: Ben Sinnott, TE, Kansas State Fifth round: Isaac Guerendo, RB, Louisville Sixth round: Keith Randolph, DL, Illinois GO DEEPER 2024 NFL Draft rankings: Dane Brugler breaks down the top 300 prospects Scoop City Newsletter Free, daily NFL updates direct to your inbox. Sign up (Photo of Drake Maye: Grant Halverson / Getty Images)
  4. Surtain is prob a top 10 non-qb building block on a rookie contract. Giants fan twitter really ran wild with that one
  5. I guess McCarthy is the guy im pretty iffy on but I’ll talk myself into it real fast if they draft him.
  6. Some YouTube giants community. He was posting here for a while too, that’s why his name jumped out to me
  7. Look who showed up on my timeline
  8. Lotta trade to 4 to draft JJ buzz on the Twitter this morning
  9. They gotta move this draft up man. This wait after free agency is brutal
  10. I’d guess Daniels bc of his frame but that’s more of an injury expectation.
  11. Haven’t heard that name in years
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