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  1. 1 hour ago, Treehugger said:

    He doesn't enter the neutral zone before the Center moves the ball.  DLinemen are allowed to move as long as they don't make an OLineman jump. It's perfectly legal and a shitty call on a great play by Lawrence.

    I was trying to find footage of the play from the angle that would show that... couldn't.    It seems like it was perfect timing albeit slightly too early... at least that's how it looked.

  2. 40 minutes ago, CrazedDogs said:


    the most unusual part is the cameras caught it. Most stuff that happens on the sidelines doesn't make the broadcast. 

    Its an emotional game, it really isn't a big deal assuming they were just getting heated about getting the ball down the field. 


    Maybe I read too much into it...  

  3. 1 hour ago, CrazedDogs said:

    Yeah Nas, but it's football. There wasn't anything going on there that doesn't happen most weeks to teams that find themselves losing games they feel they should win. I guarantee nobody on the team thought anything of it.

    ... assuming it was just the usual.

    When that happens, everyone takes note and it's on ESPN time and again... I don't mind the frustration, I mind showing it on national TV.    Look I hope something good comes out of this... let's hope for our first W.  

  4. 4 hours ago, BlueInCanada said:

    Yes and they get paid millions of dollars to be on the team and to be a team.

    The team pays them regardless of their antics. 

    Why? Because these guys win games.

    You act as if Golladay was out there taking a shit directly on Garrets head.

    The guys you pay to make plays should be given the chance to make plays or else why even have them on the team?

    Snee wasn't a diva but you can bet that if some team came around and offered him more money he wasn't going to stay around with the Giants because of "the team". 

    Look at the Bucs, they are a team full of divas and big personalities who regularly talk to the media, fuck they got that head case Brown on the team. They are probably headed to another SB apperance. 

    You're arguing a point I never made.... It's fucking simple.   Stay professional.   Air your grievances in private in on National Television.   

  5. 16 minutes ago, CrazedDogs said:

    Without knowing what was said how do you know it was 'bad behavior'? 

    All I saw was a guy that got fired up.

    The tantrum was after the Giants O got off the field... it looked like he was yelling at DJ... And you can see DJ was disgusted.   I don't have to know what was said... I saw what the rest of those who were watching saw.    You don't embarrass your teammate... Just don't do it.  

  6. 17 hours ago, BlueInCanada said:

    I'm not talking about life after football, and I don't know what you're trying to say.

    Players dont care about team, they care about wins and themselves, which leads to their next pay day.

    There are players on the team who need to be loyal to a team because no one else will give them a job, I agree, but these guys are going to have little to no impact on the result of games, they will be role players at most.

    You think a guy like Snee would of stayed with the Giants if they didnt make him the highest paid guard in the NFL?

    Look at the bolded part above... Those who don't care about team, should be relegated off the field ASAP.   No other sport demands more cohesive teamwork than football as far as I can tell... No coach or FO should entertain Divas.... and that means the next team shouldn't be offering Divas huge contracts either.... Bad behavior shouldn't be rewarded.   I don't care with Golloday was complaining about, he could have and should have went about it a different way....  Snee wasn't a Diva from what I remember... 

  7. 1 hour ago, BlueInCanada said:

    This line of thinking was relevant 20 or 30 years ago in the NFL but it really isn't the case anymore. 

    Most of these guys see more money in a single game check than 90% of the population will ever see in their lifetimes.

    These players are no longer faceless pawns to be plugged into a "system" or a "team", most teams that do this are destined for mediocrity in the NFL, just look at the Giants.

    Players don't care about respect or fans or teams anymore, they care about wins and their next pay check, much like teams don't care about fans of players just their next win and how much merch they sell. 

    The NFL is a business now and players are treating it like a business.

    Will have to disagree with you here brother.... if your pay check is coming from a talent that can end suddenly or in 10 years, your ass better have plan B... and chances are a lot of these hotheads lack the discipline to be financially viable after their brief stint in the NFL is over... I always say it's not about the playbook, it's about the execution.... 

  8. 15 hours ago, gmenroc said:

    Maybe.  I am a believer that if ball hits both of receivers hands...he is paid to catch it...not let it slip away.  Could the pass have been better?  Sure...but it was good enough.  I'd go 98%/2% fault in favor of Slayton on that play

    Will have to disagree with you there brother... the receiver stretching his fingers to try to catch the ball shouldn't be an indictment... I think Jones threw a bad ball unfortunately.    

  9. 5 hours ago, Tempest said:

    Yay more stats  :rimshot:

    Remember how the Cleveland Browns became the joke of the NFL?  It wasn't just because they lost most of their games.

    Well.   I do believe this team will turn it around soon.   I'm not letting a couple of childish acts on national television change that... I always remember that this organization has brought us a trophy once every decade... I'm not sure what other organization outside of the Patriots have been better in the last 40+ years.  


    Yea we lost the game... by one fucking point... but it was a great game... BOTH TEAMS played their fucking hearts out and we ended up on the wrong side of the score... so what?   Jones was slinging  it... the OL played quite well... Barkley isn't back and won't be back for another 6 to 8 games (barring an injury)... 

  10. 1 minute ago, JayD said:

    Yep, when I saw him screaming at Garret I just shook my head and rolled my eyes. This isn’t going to end well. 

    I think the Giants are probably many years away from being a contender again. Oh well, I’ll be there for the ride no matter how shitty this gets. 

    I'm hoping they turn this shit around... the drama on the sidelines is easily fixable... And whatever lead to it, maybe the coaches will take note... No matter how valid your point is, making a scene is never a good idea.    I'm always mindful that we should remain professional and courteous... the people causing the drama are the new-comers.    We were without them last year and we should have no problem dumping them.... and if the organization suffers because of it, then we should relegate them to the sidelines until the learn to respect their coaches, teammates, and more importantly us fans... They need to be reminded all they have going for them is some physical talent that usually starts to fade once a person crosses 30 years old... 

  11. On 9/18/2021 at 8:47 AM, CrazedDogs said:

    Who are you talking about, Toney? I just meant in general, there were people getting heated on the sidelines. 

    Yea I thought you were speaking of Toney.   And getting heated on the sidelines is beyond unprofessional.    Much like we shouldn't yell at our co-workers (at least not in public) these guys shouldn't be doing it on national tv.

  12. 17 hours ago, CrazedDogs said:

    I'd worry more of these guys weren't frustrated and pissed. They're competitors, they're going to get in each other's faces, and that is more than okay.

    Idk, I wouldn’t sugar coat the situation…. The “kid” comes off like a diva as though no one else has his super powers…. Seems to me like FO should’ve researched his attitude better.

  13. 2 hours ago, gmenroc said:

    For as much shit as I gave Jones last week, he played well last night I thought.  Game came down to 3 plays...holding on Jones TD run, dropped TD pass by Slayton, and of course, the encroachment that allowed for a 2nd shot at the game winner.

    Can't pin those on Jones.  He had a good completion percentage, kept drives alive with his legs, and didn't have any turnovers.  That's all we need from him.

    He deserves a lot of credit for this game.  That said, he need to play consistently at this level before he justifies his draft position



    1 hour ago, Sephiroth said:

    He looked pretty good, but he always looks pretty good against WTF. 

    If he can not have 2 turnovers and look to a second read against the Falcons next week, I may be a little more encouraged. 


    They're a good football team... the game was entertaining and both teams played a great game... 

  14. 18 hours ago, TaylorBanksCarsonVanPelt said:

    This... they stuck with Dave Brown for so many years.

    I thought we had an written rule on this board to never bring up that name ever... :ban:

  15. Just now, mastershake said:

    Not much...we relegated him to a backup role. Now he's excelling for the Bengals.

    Another bullseye by DG and the coaching staff.

    It seems to me that we shouldn't take a one game performance as a measuring stick... and to think our DL is one of our strongest units, I wouldn't harp on that trade especially if it went to try to shore up the OL. 

  16. Jones wasn't the only reason we lost yesterday but he deserves all the criticism he's getting here... I'm sick and tired of turnovers on this team.... It's been the source of my biggest stress with Eli and I'd hoped that would finally stop... for it to continue, it's twice as painful.   

  17. 1 hour ago, CrazedDogs said:

    that was a hell of a game last night, great way to kick off the season.

    that was the best case scenario too.... Cowboys were super hyped, playing out of their minds, tons of energy.. But, they lost anyway, and just barely. Arguably should have won that game but for their own mistakes.

    And that is just how I want it. They have a bunch of dumb dumbs on that team, they'll be at each others throats as soon as they begin to doubt themselves. I don't want a quick Cowboys implosion. I want them to do just well enough that they think they're good, so their slow, festering, should-have-been, could-have-been, Mike McCarthy disaster unfolds over several underwhelming seasons. 

    I completely forgot about the kickoff game… glad the boys lost.

  18. We're treading water... we're just trying find anything... Our OL is shitty (not breaking news to anyone)... this will be a long year.   I'm under no illusion that it's easy to fix the OL.. it's probably the hardest part of a football team.. we have drafted and have signed FAs.... nothing seems to pan out yet... 

  19. On 8/23/2021 at 7:46 PM, Sephiroth said:

    Gettleman largely ignored the o-line this off-season to bolster the talent of the receivers and RBs instead. Whelp, so far Kyle Rudolph, Kenny Golladay, and Kadarius Toney have yet but take a snap.

    Saquon is working his way back but hasn't had any significant practice time as well.

    Could we be looking at 10 points on opening day? This offense doesn't look significantly different right now than last year's.


    In a way, you've answered your own question... the reason we suck is because the players you mentioned haven't played... I'm not sure I'd pin that on the FO... Idk wtf is up with players nowadays (mainly because I'm not following thanks having an extremely busy life).    Idk why the OL was ignored... my guess is the young guys are expected to step up since as rookies no one expected hit from them... but I'm just guessing so who knows.  

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