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Gettlemen may draft well in some instances, but he has still failed to put together a complete roster, especially on the offensive line. His free agency and non-draft moves (i.e. trades) have been atrocious thus far, overall. The only FA moves I can think of which you can say worked out well so far are Kevin Zeitler and Markus Golden, with the jury still out on Golden Tate. If the giants have another 10 loss or more season, you have to fire Gettlemen, especially after the Leonard Williams debacle which is just gross incompetence, and especially after we once again, for the fifth year in a row, still don't have a competent offensive line; Pulley and Solder are penciled in as a our starters, but are no better than backups at best, while Hernandez is fledgling on bust status. It don't think it's too much of a standard to hold you GM to...3 years to produce 7 wins or more in a season. If they can't by their third season, you have to fire them. 90% of the current roster is Gettlemen's.

The Washington Generals Makes sense given that they only pretend to play football.

Not to take anything away from Bradshaw in 2007, but holy shit what a difference a COMPETENT offensive line makes.

I should have said the Giants were have rumored to offer him that, so take it with a grain of salt, but it sounds plausible since he didn't sign a deal with anyone.

I give it a 10% chance of happening.

The giants offered him a multi year deal, but one that was under $10mm per year, that he apparently rejected. My guess is it was something like 2-3 years and $7-8mm per year. Now he's getting half of that for just one season, so again, Golden's agent should be fired.

He also had an injury history in the two years prior to the giants, missing 17 games in that span, and underperforming in the 15 games he did play (only 2.5 sacks), so injury history could have been a factor in making teams reluctant to offer a multi year or big deal.

Allegedly Golden had better offers, but wanted over $10mm per year which no-one was willing to offer...and now he has a much worse deal than those better offers. He needs to fire his agent.

I love Tomlinson. I just thought it was funny that he's excited about the coach because of the scheme, when he had the same approval of the scheme 2 years ago.

Dalvin Tomlinson, June 2020: Dalvin Tomlinson says Giants' new defense has Alabama feel https://giantswire.usatoday.com/2020/06/29/dalvin-tomlinson-says-new-york-giants-new-defense-has-alabama-feel/?fbclid=IwAR08KFxL3Bbak1SpzLKkn5ag__8jkkbUGczhgzTND1YgPxbn3jpn8lUpFQs Dalvin Tomlinson, May 2018: New York Giants DL Dalvin Tomlinson: ‘New defense reminds me of Alabama’ https://elitesportsny.com/2018/05/31/new-york-giants-dl-dalvin-tomlinson-new-defense-reminds-me-alabama-interview/?fbclid=IwAR0TbKzSRAayd46iED9CmVwGLyg_J9UeW_12HW_xnEZvzP__d0l5K_u1cBQ

I bet they don't even have a season. Too many players, coaches, and staff will get COVID-19 over the next several weeks (many already have) and they will call it off.

Perfect. Can't come at a better time while our CB situation was already iffy heading into the season.

I fucking hate when our first game is Sunday or Monday night.

I think his skillset is there, but all of the other important elements are not, such as the mental makeup, leadership, etc.

Yeah, I'm not sure what happened, but from 2011 through 2017, our drafts were an epic disaster. He missed on not one but two top 10 picks (Flowers and Apple) in recent years to make matters worse.

Cool, now can they complete a full season for us?

Clowney's biggest problem is he's overrated, injury prone and has never produced except for two seasons with 9 sacks. He's not a bust, but he's definitely not worthy of his #2 overall pick, and not worth over $10mm.

I think that's normally the case for a guy getting 10 plus sacks, but I think people might be thinking his injury history prior to 2019 gives reason to be cautious. Plus other factors could be his age (29, not a baby anymore), scheme fit (maybe people only see him as a 3-4 OLB or situational pass rusher), etc. Another factor is his side. We don't know what offers he got that he refused because he wanted more, offers that are now off the table once teams moved on. For all we know, he could have turned down close to 10 mil, like a 3 year $24mm contract.

LOL...who were the ones saying Golden was going to get $10mm per year? He's going to end up with this one year prove it $5mm deal yet again.

Yeah S may not have been as big of a position of need as some others on this team, buy I think we got an impact player in X man.

Maybe he'll get better. There's hope for Hernandez with a new staff, but if he plays this year like last year, I'm ready to declare him a bust and move on. Nick Gates was serviceable and proved to be better than Hernandez (and Remmers). He could compete for the spot as well.

I bet he has more of a shot at LG once Hernandez busts out.

Yeah, plus I don't see how this is any different than us normally berating Gettlemen for his prior two poor free agencies like we always do. No different than any fans berating their GM in general for poor decisions. It's what fans do. Complain about poor decisions.

He's had three coaches already, but now his fourth will make him Richard Seymour? And no other GM in the league could see that but Getty? Hah!

The problem with the trade is it didn't need to happen. We could have just signed him in the off-season, likely for far cheaper, if we really wanted him. Possibly for something like 4 years $40-48 million, which wouldn't be too bad (I would have invested elsewhere, but that wouldn't be a bad deal). And we'd have a high 3rd rounder this year, a premium pick. I also trusted BJ Hill just fine in his place. Yes, Hill isn't as good, but it's not a huge drop-off to free up $17mm in cap space to allocate elsewhere. That $17mm could have gotten is Graham Glasgow and Markus Golden. It's just a huge blunder on Gettlemen's part.