BlueInCanada

Not good company lol

this thread goes pretty deep on Jones. Does a good job pointing out the entire coaching staff was getting mad at Jones for his inability to read past his first look and his run second tendencies he's had since he was a rookie.

Tyrod actually had a pretty good avoiding sacks rating, Divito was mid, Jones is last in the NFL lol I'll need to find the twitter thread but with the DJ hate piling on this offseason there have some pretty interesting deep dives into Jones and his ability. Needless to say he's a historically bad QB who never had a chance with the Giants lol

He's no longer on the team in any way though. I mean I don't know how else to say it lol He was momentarily let go by the team and the may choose to come back too? That doesn't sound fun.

Some pundits saying he may be worth the transition tag. Giants letting him go outright. He's going to get over paid by some team out there like the last two safeties we released.

Him and Henry are the top two RBs this year, both will go to contenders looking to win it all. Barkley should go to the Chiefs and be a one two punch with Pichecko, win acouple rings.

He'll fit FA. I'm sure some team will throw a bag at him. He was the only reason to watch the team the last few years.

Yeah as much as I want a QB if they can't get a top 3 guy then take the next best thing. Nabers is my far and away best value pick with Marvin JR off the board by 6. Dude is a difference maker however I fear by the time we have a QB he's gone through a few losing seasons and wants out. I wonder if the Giants could get Minshew in free agency. Or take Joe Alt and kick him to RT. But this is the best chance the Giants will have in awhile to get one of the higher rated QBs.

Generally when Rich says it he's heard it from some credible people.

Also I wonder how many times the Giants will be called racists for not going after Wilson like the first time around.

That whole Wilson/Peyton trade and sign thing the Broncos did hasn't really worked out for them. That Wilson trade is going to go down as one if not the worst trade in NFL history.

I don't see how we don't get a QB either a rookie or free agent like Mayfield. There is zero chance that Jones starts next year and I'm done with this franchise if he is for the season lol

https://www.bigblueview.com/2024/2/22/24080505/giants-trading-up-from-no-6-for-a-qb-very-much-in-play-daniel-jeremiah

Or take Nabers at #6 and one of those other guys in the second and pray they work out otherwise it's a waste of a talent at #6 taking Nabers.

I doubt a trade for either of those guys is on the table. Trade #6, #39 (keep 47 from the Seahawks), next year's second and seventh to the Pats. Get #3 and next year's fifth from the Pats. Grab Daniels at #3 and take a WR/OG at #47. And we still have a first in 2025. Boom wer'e set.

Granted the biggest thing about taking a QB isn't the team but how the QB develops. It's such a crap shoot with any QB, with the vast majority becoming nothing more than backup level. We got lucky with Eli. But you still have to take a QB and the Giants are in the best spot now to go get one with contracts coming off the books and having a top 10 pick. Not to mention we can still go get other positions later in the draft or free agency. It's much easier to get a crop of WRs then it is a QB in free agency.

The problem with waiting to draft a QB and developing the team though is what happens if the QB is a bust? Or more so what happens when everyone else needs to get paid and suddenly you don't have money because you have to pay the franchise guy. The 49ers would be in this situation if the last pick in the draft didn't develop.onto a franchise guy after taking Trey Lance. Look at the Jets they were ready to compete but had to suffer through Wilson and now the Rodgers ordeal. I'd much rather be a team like the Texans who by all rights don't have much talent on that team but found their franchise guy.

Pretty much all you hear about the Giants in the combine so far.

Saves 5.7 million in cap space.

I mean go to any news site and it's being talked about. Would end up costing the Giants 1.7 million in dead cap.

lol

He's playing as well as I'd expect a fourth round pick to play, league average. I never said either were good. But they are the least of the Giants concerns this offseason, and the audition of one/two vets or even another rookie will help.

They don't list coordinators. https://nflpa.com/nfl-player-team-report-cards-2024 Some of these other teams though lol fucking highschool level stuff.