JMFP Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Gotta love this dude. On the eve of the first practice of his 11th Giants training camp in charge, coach Tom Coughlin invoked a new Super Bowl rallying cry when he addressed his team Tuesday morning: Burn the boats! “It’s a mentality … the idea of coming into something with no turning back,” Coughlin told The Post. “The whole theme is, there’s no turning back. “If you’re here for the right reason, all right? And you share with us the goals. And you’ve put the time and the effort into it, there is no turning back. Once this thing starts, it’s a full commitment, and we have to have everybody in that circle to get it done. “And that story just illustrates the way in which the Grecian warriors were treated when they attacked another nation. As they landed onshore, the commanders told them, ‘Burn the boats.’ “Well burning the boats symbolized what? It symbolized that if you survive, you’re gonna defeat the opponent, take his boats, and you will have a chance to return home. But if you don’t do it, you’re not ever going home. “So, the idea of that type of commitment, the idea of no turning back, is just an illustration, a story, a parable, which drives home a good message, and that’s what I was after.” ‘So, the idea of that type of commitment, the idea of no turning back, is just an illustration, a story, a parable, which drives home a good message, and that’s what I was after.’ Coughlin is presiding over sweeping roster changes, and molding this 2014 team into a cohesive unit with the right chemistry will be critical. A year ago, Coughlin watched his boats burn across the first six weeks of the season. He revisited the horror of the first half of the 2013 season with his 2014 Giants. “It’s unacceptable,” one player said. “Point blank.” Only a fast start is acceptable. “It’s getting back to that mentality of winning championships — what does it take? What does it look like? How hard are we gonna have to work out here? The sacrifices,” the player said. Burn the boats! “Something else I think that was key that he talked about I took to heart the most was about burning the boats. “The ancient Greeks were going to war — as soon as they got to the shore, they burned the boats. “There’s no turning back.” It has been written that when Alexander the Great burned his ships after he arrived in Persia in 334 B.C. (Before Coughlin) with an outnumbered force, one of his commanders asked, “How will we get home?” And Alexander’s answer: “We’ll use their ships.” Some cite Spanish conquistador Hernan Cortes, who landed in Mexico with 11 ships and maybe 500 men in the early 1500s. “With this act,” 919th Special Operations Group Commander Col. Jim Phillips wrote in 2012, Cortes “ensured the whole-hearted commitment of his men to the cause. With their only means of escape destroyed, the small army went on to conquer the Aztecs and to seize the riches they had set out to capture.” No retreat. No surrender. All-in. Giants again. Burn the boats! http://nypost.com/2014/07/22/coughlin-taps-battlefield-legends-in-message-to-big-blue/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 awesome picture. and yes, coughlin is the man, great man, great coach. got his book on deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishgutmartyr Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Can you just see it? July 27, 2014 Three Giants Players Arrested at Marina for Arson Coaching Staff Brought In for Questioning Coughlin: "It was an illustration!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Can you just see it? JPP, Manningham, and Thurmond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Well now we know how the front office plans on paying for the 2014-2015 roster, saving on transportation costs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Really he is trying to cover a minnesota vikings-esque scandal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Fucking. Love. It. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Talk is cheap. Play the game. Another good one from Coughlin. Seems to me instead of making motivational poster-board material every season he should be working on winning football games and the team should be getting physically prepared for the season....instead of Roman history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Talk is cheap. Play the game. Another good one from Coughlin. Seems to me instead of making motivational poster-board material every season he should be working on winning football games and the team should be getting physically prepared for the season....instead of Roman history. Talk is cheap. Play the game. Another good one from Coughlin. Seems to me instead of making motivational poster-board material every season he should be working on winning football games and the team should be getting physically prepared for the season....instead of Roman history. And yet when he would just coach the team people would bitch that he wasnt motivational enough or that the players didn't respect him in any way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virginia Giant Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Talk is cheap. Play the game. Another good one from Coughlin. Seems to me instead of making motivational poster-board material every season he should be working on winning football games and the team should be getting physically prepared for the season....instead of Roman history. Thank you, it's cute but I'm so sick of the catch phrases and gimmicks this team uses every year. Just strap em up and go hit somebody, that should be the fucking motivational saying. Or how about, repeat 2013 and we won't pay any of you anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virginia Giant Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 And yet when he would just coach the team people would bitch that he wasnt motivational enough or that the players didn't respect him in any way. I don't think anyone has claimed Coughlin lacks motivational skills. I'd rather see it be done with working them hard in the summer, showing them he has their back if something goes down, and not relying on some stupid rallying cry in the hopes some movie line or history book quote will capture their imagination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 I don't think anyone has claimed Coughlin lacks motivational skills. I'd rather see it be done with working them hard in the summer, showing them he has their back if something goes down, and not relying on some stupid rallying cry in the hopes some movie line or history book quote will capture their imagination. Honestly from the moment he walked in to even after he won the SB in '07 people still questioned that he could motivate the team to win and that he was always "losing players" to his coaching style of working players hard in training camp and having the personality of a stone. But hey I guess everyone has a season long memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Honestly from the moment he walked in to even after he won the SB in '07 people still questioned that he could motivate the team to win and that he was always "losing players" to his coaching style of working players hard in training camp and having the personality of a stone. But hey I guess everyone has a season long memory. I just think the rah-rah, gimmicky catch phrase bullshit every year is obnoxious. I'm half-convinced the organization makes him do it so their PR can turn it into a hashtag, social media campaign. These guys have 6 figure reasons to win football games. Yeah, sure, create a team atmosphere with a bunch of guys buying in to what you're doing. But like VG said, you do it organized team activities and outings, having their back, working them hard but making progress, and most importantly, seeing the result--winning. Let the PR department make the fucking t-shirts. Shut up and do your job should be the slogan, especially when you go 7-9 and realize no one was building the fucking bridge or what the fuck ever last years was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Talk is cheap. Play the game. Another good one from Coughlin. Seems to me instead of making motivational poster-board material every season he should be working on winning football games and the team should be getting physically prepared for the season....instead of Roman history. yeah this stuff stopped being cute a while ago. those beat writers eat it up though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 So wait... taking cheap shots at players in the final few minutes didn't instill a tough, "never say die" attitude in Greg Schiano's teams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 I just think the rah-rah, gimmicky catch phrase bullshit every year is obnoxious. I'm half-convinced the organization makes him do it so their PR can turn it into a hashtag, social media campaign. These guys have 6 figure reasons to win football games. Yeah, sure, create a team atmosphere with a bunch of guys buying in to what you're doing. But like VG said, you do it organized team activities and outings, having their back, working them hard but making progress, and most importantly, seeing the result--winning. Let the PR department make the fucking t-shirts. Shut up and do your job should be the slogan, especially when you go 7-9 and realize no one was building the fucking bridge or what the fuck ever last years was. And yet you still have players who only turn up for a paycheck/hold out and get busted in the offseason beating their wife or doing whatever manner of illicit drugs. These guys are practically fifth grade educated kids who have more money then you or I will ever see, when Coughlin is a hardass in team activities the players and fans said he's losing the team and he will never win anything. Now that's he's trying to get players to buy into the team he's to soft and to busy doing gimmicky things, it's not like he shows up into team activities says this one phrase then leaves the building for the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMFP Posted July 25, 2014 Author Share Posted July 25, 2014 Talk is cheap. Play the game. Another good one from Coughlin. Seems to me instead of making motivational poster-board material every season he should be working on winning football games and the team should be getting physically prepared for the season....instead of Roman history. Thank you, it's cute but I'm so sick of the catch phrases and gimmicks this team uses every year. Just strap em up and go hit somebody, that should be the fucking motivational saying. Or how about, repeat 2013 and we won't pay any of you anymore I think it's up to McAdoo to recharge the offense, and Fewell to rebuild the defense......Coughlin does a great job doing everything else. In my opinion, last year, thanks largely to Reese's overestimation of the existing roster, the Giants sucked ass. The fact they went 7-9 rather than 2-14 was largely due to the leadership abilities of Coughlin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue25 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 I think it's up to McAdoo to recharge the offense, and Fewell to rebuild the defense......Coughlin does a great job doing everything else. In my opinion, last year, thanks largely to Reese's overestimation of the existing roster, the Giants sucked ass. The fact they went 7-9 rather than 2-14 was largely due to the leadership abilities of Coughlin. It was more due to the fact we played Josh Freeman, Matt Barkley, Kirk Cousins and Terelle Pryor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 It was more due to the fact we played Josh Freeman, Matt Barkley, Kirk Cousins and Terelle Pryor Well in Coughlins defense, all the other team played against Eli. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue25 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Well in Coughlins defense, all the other team played against Eli. Time to start Nassib. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Time to start Nassib. Or Eli to step up his game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 We historically suck and make backup qb's look like Montana when we play them. We didn't do that last year, that is a plus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 softest 7-9 team ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA4M Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Damn people, let's not forget what the GMEN have done for us the last decade. Giants having a bad season or two, while the shit teams like Dallas, The Eagles and Skins can only wish they were us! I bitch too, but I try to keep this in mind if it starts to be too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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