echochamber Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 I'm pretty sure I'm accurately paraphrasing Gettleman's comments from the post-Beckham trade press conference. Not that it really matters, its just a curiosity at this point. You are correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 They were 2 separate trades Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorillaNJ Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 I felt really bad for Odell last night... he's not feeling Cleveland and all the time I thought he was part of the package that brought us Zeitler... but to find out we could have kept him and still got Zietler, it's really upsetting on so many levels... It would be great if we can get him back... If we could get him for free... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 They were 2 separate trades technically it really was one trade: March 13, 2019 Traded WR Odell Beckham Jr. and DE Olivier Vernon to Cleveland for S Jabrill Peppers, G Kevin Zeitler and 2019 first- (No. 17) and third-round (No. 95) draft picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 It was definitely framed like both deals had to be done or no deals were getting done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 LOL. This is a good one too. Gotta love Faker Mayfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 It was definitely framed like both deals had to be done or no deals were getting done. and that there was a bit of an act of faith between both parties... which hasn't been entirely explained, but reading between the lines I thought they delayed announcing the Beckham side of the deal so they'd have a chance to tell him personally.... and he was cloistered away in Europe.... so it was kind of funny to see his public reaction, to say that they should have told him face to face when he had been out of the country for weeks and weeks on end! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 ODB stats the past three weeks, 10 catches for 103 yards, 1 fumble...lol One TD on the entire season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 I really figured OBJ would be the very first of Eli's receivers to go on to have a significant career elsewhere. Everyone else either got hurt or just turned out to be a different player when it wasn't ol mediocre Eli tossing him the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 I really figured OBJ would be the very first of Eli's receivers to go on to have a significant career elsewhere. Everyone else either got hurt or just turned out to be a different player when it wasn't ol mediocre Eli tossing him the ball. I was reading on Twitter someone saying clocking his routes hes probably closer to a 4.5 forty now. Which is a big difference from the 4.4ish he ran at the combine. Im wondering if injuries have hampered him as theyve piled up. Plus, hes not really a big bodied guy nor overly physical. He just can jump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Basically what happened wa the Vernon trade was announced, a week or however long later the Beckham trade was announced, and then afterwards they were like this is all one trade now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Oliver Vernon... 7 tackles, 1 sack on the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Basically what happened wa the Vernon trade was announced, a week or however long later the Beckham trade was announced, and then afterwards they were like this is all one trade now That's the thing I've read that both trades were separate but on March 13th when the NFL trades were allowed to happen they were reported together by the league. From everything I've read I firmly believe that the Vernon/Zeitler trade would of happened regardlesss of the OBJ trade. Honestly I think without the Giants talking to the Browns about Zeitler the OBJ never would of happened either. The Giants wanted to offload Vernon's cap and the Browns felt like Zeitler coming off an so so season wasn't worth them paying or keeping him in the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman_NYG Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 OBJ is still going to have a stellar career no matter where he is - he is that damn good! He just didnt expect to walk into a bigger dumpster fire than NY. Cleveland entered with so much promise - but if that bum Kitchens realises that the offense goes through Nick Chubb first - then itll be better for Mayfield and the Passing game. The OL isnt helping either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 That's the thing I've read that both trades were separate but on March 13th when the NFL trades were allowed to happen they were reported together by the league. From everything I've read I firmly believe that the Vernon/Zeitler trade would of happened regardlesss of the OBJ trade. Honestly I think without the Giants talking to the Browns about Zeitler the OBJ never would of happened either. The Giants wanted to offload Vernon's cap and the Browns felt like Zeitler coming off an so so season wasn't worth them paying or keeping him in the long run. Zeitler had a pretty good year last year (according to PFF, lol)… but they spent a high draft pick on a G last year too, Austin Corbett if I recall correctly... they thought he was going to be the shit... instead he is just shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 That's the thing I've read that both trades were separate but on March 13th when the NFL trades were allowed to happen they were reported together by the league. From everything I've read I firmly believe that the Vernon/Zeitler trade would of happened regardlesss of the OBJ trade. Honestly I think without the Giants talking to the Browns about Zeitler the OBJ never would of happened either. The Giants wanted to offload Vernon's cap and the Browns felt like Zeitler coming off an so so season wasn't worth them paying or keeping him in the long run. They could really use Zietler now though, their oline sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 They could really use Zietler now though, their oline sucks. Yeah go figure, the OBJ trade really wasnt the big impact for the Browns, it was Zeitler. OBJ is still going to have a stellar career no matter where he is - he is that damn good! He just didnt expect to walk into a bigger dumpster fire than NY. Cleveland entered with so much promise - but if that bum Kitchens realises that the offense goes through Nick Chubb first - then itll be better for Mayfield and the Passing game. The OL isnt helping either. Yeah when I heard that the Browns promoted a positional coach to HC who has no previous experience leading a team, especially a team with such high expectations like the Browns, you knew it was going to be a dumpster fire. I mean it's like MacAttack, the guy was nothing but a positional coach 90% of his career and a part time assistant OC for like two season before the Giants brought him here. Why they ever thought he was HC material is beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Kitchens was punting from midfield in the fourth quarter down 25, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 OBJ is still going to have a stellar career no matter where he is - he is that damn good! He just didnt expect to walk into a bigger dumpster fire than NY. Cleveland entered with so much promise - but if that bum Kitchens realises that the offense goes through Nick Chubb first - then itll be better for Mayfield and the Passing game. The OL isnt helping either. OBJ's body isn't durable enough for a long career though... I do wish there's a way we can bring him back... he's just not happy there... and now we have Danny Dimes throwing the ball... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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