Sephiroth Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 The Giants have 7 sacks this season, one of the lowest totals in the league. Okwara, Kennard, and JPP have 13 between them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 To be fair, the Giants didnt have the cap for Kennard after Solder, Martin, and fucking Stewart. JPP was a cap casualty as well, not to mention the guy wasnt even playing close to the level he is now. In 5 games he has 5 sacks, in 16 last year he had 8. Okwara didnt even have a sack till last week was it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 I mean last off season we had one of the worst caps in the NFL. We couldn't keep everyone while over turning the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted October 20, 2018 Author Share Posted October 20, 2018 All of that is true, but it does make me wonder if maybe we weren't using those those guys properly or if there was just an overall culture of laziness/failure/etc. on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 All of that is true, but it does make me wonder if maybe we weren't using those those guys properly or if there was just an overall culture of laziness/failure/etc. on the team. Very rarely is it one thing. Defense is still having trouble getting to the QB regularly and those guys were part of that too. I don't think any of them would have changed the course this season has taken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Very rarely is it one thing. Defense is still having trouble getting to the QB regularly and those guys were part of that too. I don't think any of them would have changed the course this season has taken. You are so right, very very rarely is it only one thing. But people crave simple answers. Must be the QB. Or the OL. Or the coaching. But... could be more of an 'and', not 'or', situation.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 We're all just sitting here waiting for this team to get out of this funk. I try and see a silver lining in everything that has happened to this team every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 We're all just sitting here waiting for this team to get out of this funk. I try and see a silver lining in everything that has happened to this team every year. I just wanted to see improvement this year. After last year, I knew the Giants were headed for three or four, or maybe even more seasons of at best 8-8 seasons ahead of them. So far, I see improvement in the defense, the front 7 is actually respectable, but the secondary is still the weakest part of it all. The running game (99.9% of it being Barkley) is better. The Oline at times seems better, but at others seems worse. QB play is just as bad. Special teams are derp as always, but that has been the Giants curse since Tyree left. I think this is another lost year overall at this point, there hasnt been a key area(s) that have made vast improvements, just the addition of Barkley, which is hard when you have massive roster turnover and an unfriendly cap situation. I think next year when more of JRs/MacAttacks stench is even further removed from the team, we will start seeing Gettys/Shurmurs team come together. Doesnt mean a winning season, but just headed in the right direction. It's just frustrating seeing the Giants get stomped week in and out, but a couple more seasons of this might just mean a long stretch of success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 All I wanted was the O-line to improve to league average. I dont even care about the defense because as long as you can score you can compete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 All I wanted was the O-line to improve to league average. I dont even care about the defense because as long as you can score you can compete. Remember its never one thing... The defense is respectable and can only get better under new DC... The mere thought of ODB Engram and Barkely on this team is scary good... I think biggest problem facing this team is the cap... we have too many Solders on this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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