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#1 GuyMeatdrapes

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Posted 06 June 2006 - 01:42 PM

1-1 10.80 ERA in 2006 vs NY Yankees. I wish more teams had Yankee killers on their staffs.

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Posted 06 June 2006 - 09:30 PM

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he has faced the Yankees 3 times in his career and is 2-1. I think they have to see eachother a bit more before one can say he owns them.

Don't be a hyprocrite.

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Posted 07 June 2006 - 02:57 PM

QUOTE(gateb @ Jun 6 2006, 05:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Don't be a hyprocrite.

how am I being a hyprocrite? I would never call a guy who has faced the Red Sox 2 times in his career a with a 1-1 record a Red Sox killer.

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Posted 07 June 2006 - 10:19 PM

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how am I being a hyprocrite? I would never call a guy who has faced the Red Sox 2 times in his career a with a 1-1 record a Red Sox killer.

So now that he has a bad start under his belt, everything changes? I don't see the point of this post...

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Posted 08 June 2006 - 01:40 PM

QUOTE(gateb @ Jun 7 2006, 06:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So now that he has a bad start under his belt, everything changes? I don't see the point of this post...

everything changes?? Thats completely the point of this thread. There have been an abundance of pitchers who have thrown great games against the Yankees(in the post season too)...why are they not Yankee killers? The guy has faced the Yankees 4 times in career and has a 2-2 record. Did Beckett shut down the Yankees in the WS? Yes. Did the Yankees beat Beckett in the WS? Yes. Has Josh Beckett beaten the Yankees this season? Yes. Have the Yankees beaten Beckett this season? Yes. Lets stop the nonsense.

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Posted 12 June 2006 - 02:07 AM

QUOTE(Straight Knowlege Receiver @ Jun 6 2006, 09:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
1-1 10.80 ERA in 2006 vs NY Yankees. I wish more teams had Yankee killers on their staffs.


One regular season loss, or exposing a $150+ million payroll on the way to winning the World Series and an MVP award. Take your pick...

P.S. He did it again...



Meanwhile A-Rod did ??? as you got SWEPT at home by the A's....

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Posted 12 June 2006 - 02:50 PM

QUOTE(Motes @ Jun 11 2006, 10:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
One regular season loss, or exposing a $150+ million payroll on the way to winning the World Series and an MVP award. Take your pick...

P.S. He did it again...



Meanwhile A-Rod did ??? as you got SWEPT at home by the A's....

I guess you didnt read the rest of my posts. And with all due respect Motes, you dont know anything about baseball.

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Posted 12 June 2006 - 10:31 PM

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I guess you didnt read the rest of my posts. And with all due respect Motes, you dont know anything about baseball.


I stated facts, not opinions. Sorry if the truth hurts...

Maybe we'll get an ace like RJ one day soon.

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Posted 14 June 2006 - 11:21 PM

If I remember correctly, Carl Pavano also shut down the Red Sox last year in his first start against them. The path of Pavano last year and Beckett this year are almost the exact same IMO. Both had weaknesses but were able to overcome them at the outset of the season mostly before collapsing (not saying Beckett has collapsed exactly but he's on his way). I think yankee and red sox fans both need to realize that NL pitchers can't pitch in the AL East.

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Posted 15 June 2006 - 11:28 PM

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If I remember correctly, Carl Pavano also shut down the Red Sox last year in his first start against them. The path of Pavano last year and Beckett this year are almost the exact same IMO. Both had weaknesses but were able to overcome them at the outset of the season mostly before collapsing (not saying Beckett has collapsed exactly but he's on his way). I think yankee and red sox fans both need to realize that NL pitchers can't pitch in the AL East.

I watched that game. It was a nothing special outing by Pavano really. Hardly shutting them down. He was in place for the win yes and also did have a solid game but certainly not shutting them down.

Anyway, what does Pavano have to do with Beckett at this point? Just because they came from Florida and had similar debuts against the opposing team doesn't mean shit.

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Posted 16 June 2006 - 01:41 AM

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I watched that game. It was a nothing special outing by Pavano really. Hardly shutting them down. He was in place for the win yes and also did have a solid game but certainly not shutting them down.

Anyway, what does Pavano have to do with Beckett at this point? Just because they came from Florida and had similar debuts against the opposing team doesn't mean shit.


Pavano went 6 1/3, 2 ER and 7 K in that game, not outstanding but it was well over a quality start. Would have got the win if Mo had not given up the lead however the Yanks still won.

And what he has to do with him at this point, besides both being from Florida, is that like you can see from the above line and his few starts following, although he ended up with a losing record, most of his starts were quality before his ERA became bloated (see Beckett) and began losing more decisions (see Beckett) and then got injured and fell off the map.

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Posted 20 June 2006 - 12:54 AM

QUOTE(TheShocker @ Jun 16 2006, 01:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Pavano went 6 1/3, 2 ER and 7 K in that game, not outstanding but it was well over a quality start. Would have got the win if Mo had not given up the lead however the Yanks still won.

And what he has to do with him at this point, besides both being from Florida, is that like you can see from the above line and his few starts following, although he ended up with a losing record, most of his starts were quality before his ERA became bloated (see Beckett) and began losing more decisions (see Beckett) and then got injured and fell off the map.

I think you are reaching a little bit here. Beckett and Pavano both playing for Florida really have nothing to do with each other. What does them both playing in Florida a couple of years ago have to do with each other?

There's no way we can call him a Yankee killer after a few starts against them, and there is no way he could be called the next Carl Pavano after a few more starts that are similar to Pavano's.

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Posted 23 June 2006 - 05:03 PM

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think yankee and red sox fans both need to realize that NL pitchers can't pitch in the AL East.


Pedro Martinez used to be in the National League.
But I guess he can't pitch.

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Posted 10 July 2006 - 12:21 AM

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And with all due respect Motes, you dont know anything about baseball.


This is coming from a guy who's old signature used to be:

"The MLB had to change its rules for the Red Sox to win"

Fucking idiot, do you even know why the Wild Card was created, you stupid fuck?

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Posted 04 August 2006 - 02:10 AM

QUOTE(gateb @ Jun 19 2006, 08:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think you are reaching a little bit here. Beckett and Pavano both playing for Florida really have nothing to do with each other. What does them both playing in Florida a couple of years ago have to do with each other?

There's no way we can call him a Yankee killer after a few starts against them, and there is no way he could be called the next Carl Pavano after a few more starts that are similar to Pavano's.


what do u call him now?

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Posted 04 August 2006 - 09:33 PM

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what do u call him now?

When he is bad, he is BAD.

Yet he has twice the natural talent that Pavano had when he came to New York, so Sox fans shouldn't be worried. He needs another consistent pitch or something though.

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Posted 04 August 2006 - 10:23 PM

QUOTE(gateb @ Aug 4 2006, 05:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
When he is bad, he is BAD.

Yet he has twice the natural talent that Pavano had when he came to New York, so Sox fans shouldn't be worried. He needs another consistent pitch or something though.


here's the worst part, in my opinion. No one knows what he's doing wrong. They cant sit him down and explain it to him.

What has happened is his 97 mph fastball over the plate is being hit by the guys in the AL as opposed to the guys in the NL who are not quite as good. He needs to learn how to locate that pitch. I bet out of all the home runs he's given up, 90-95% are off that fastball. All 3 last night were on it.

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Posted 05 August 2006 - 01:04 AM

QUOTE(Plow @ Aug 4 2006, 10:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
here's the worst part, in my opinion. No one knows what he's doing wrong. They cant sit him down and explain it to him.

What has happened is his 97 mph fastball over the plate is being hit by the guys in the AL as opposed to the guys in the NL who are not quite as good. He needs to learn how to locate that pitch. I bet out of all the home runs he's given up, 90-95% are off that fastball. All 3 last night were on it.

Can't disagree with that. He has some tailoring up to do.

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Posted 30 October 2007 - 01:30 AM

Is he killing you yet?

Josh Beckett is the greatest postseason pitcher of his generation. When all is said and done, he may be the greatest of any generation. Your pitching staff absolutely sucked when it mattered this year.




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