MikeGL Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Dude retweeted a tweet saying how Rod Smith iced the Giants with 81 yard catch and run and then un-rewtweeted it after tweets were pounding him for it. https://twitter.com/ryandisdier/status/939972391748493312 Not only that, but this video sheds some light on what kind of player he is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cnxj2qvepcY We need to dump the waste on this team, starting with Eli Apple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeGL Posted December 11, 2017 Author Share Posted December 11, 2017 Or perhaps we need a better coach to put him in line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 He's a young, immature player who plays like a young, immature player. He definitely has skills. I'd let a new coach/GM do what he wants. If his interview with Apple is bad and he wants to move him, I'd be OK with that if we get something of value. Otherwise he definitely has the physical skills to be a top corner in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 All depends...if he's still on his rookie deal, which I believe he is, keep him. If we're talking about resigning him, then you set a lower value and let him walk if he balks at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightFire Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Was he a healthy scratch again this week? I was looking for him, although I only half watch the games now, and didn't see him (on the field or sidelines). If he's still a healthy scratch with a new coach and all these injuries his career is done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gman329 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Yes, he was a healthy scratch. He was never that badly injured. He missed time to be with his mother while she was undergoing and recovering from brain surgery. There was also the immature reaction to the "brutally honest" film session, when he almost walked out. Adding all that, Giants decided he wasn't emotionally or mentally prepared to play football at this time. Looks to me like they are going to make him miss playing and appreciate the opportunity he has. I do believe he's still on his rookie contract and I agree with Seph - he's got talent. Having him come into camp hungry and afraid of being cut wouldn't be the worst thing in the world for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 He has two more years and the option year. I dont know what to make of him at this point but I wouldnt be surprised if the giants found out he was one of the leakers and unofficially banished him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK-Giantsfan Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Great 1st round pick Jerry ........... fuck you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMFP Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 He's a young, immature player who plays like a young, immature player. He definitely has skills. I'd let a new coach/GM do what he wants. If his interview with Apple is bad and he wants to move him, I'd be OK with that if we get something of value. Otherwise he definitely has the physical skills to be a top corner in the league. Agreed. Often times, young guys can be governed by the team psychology of the locker room. When you spend a shitload of money on free agents, it's easy for things to swing from great to bad with a few losses. There was a fragile team chemistry from 2016 that was shattered in 2017. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue25 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 He's a young, immature player who plays like a young, immature player. He definitely has skills. I'd let a new coach/GM do what he wants. If his interview with Apple is bad and he wants to move him, I'd be OK with that if we get something of value. Otherwise he definitely has the physical skills to be a top corner in the league. No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boohyah Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 I remember Corey Webster sucked ass early before he turned it around. I tend to think this is a similar deal, but he needs to grow up soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman_NYG Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Agreed. Often times, young guys can be governed by the team psychology of the locker room. When you spend a shitload of money on free agents, it's easy for things to swing from great to bad with a few losses. There was a fragile team chemistry from 2016 that was shattered in 2017. This is spot on. The groomed Giants are different mentally compared to the FA paid Giants. Its their bonding and coming on the same page that makes a team click. Right now - its lacking and I put that squarely on our fucking GM and McFuckadoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lughead Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 https://www.newsday.com/sports/football/giants/eli-apple-giants-steve-spagnuolo-1.15419596 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeGL Posted December 12, 2017 Author Share Posted December 12, 2017 https://www.newsday.com/sports/football/giants/eli-apple-giants-steve-spagnuolo-1.15419596 Kid needs to be disciplined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 That would be a terrible waste of a first round draft pick. He struggled and screwed up in his second season and so has everyone else on the team. I think he will redeem himself if he spends some time reflecting on this season. Simply can't cut everyone on a whim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Yeah the kid is on a rookie contract which is the lowest of impact contracts. Let him finish it off before he gets thrown off the team. He has flashes, more bad than good, but still why waste the pick? Just so the Jags could go get him and he becomes a star there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue25 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Yeah the kid is on a rookie contract which is the lowest of impact contracts. Let him finish it off before he gets thrown off the team. He has flashes, more bad than good, but still why waste the pick? Just so the Jags could go get him and he becomes a star there? Again, No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Again, No Why though? He's better than anything you'll pick off the street unless you want to pay Jenkins money again. People just be straight hating yo as Osi's would say, whoever he went. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightFire Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Guys a straight up liar and a headcase. Also the consensus is that the leaks came from him. https://twitter.com/art_stapleton/status/941385112448634882 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Eli Lemon is turning into the biggest top 10 pick bust for the giants since Ereck Flowers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Eli Lemon is turning into the biggest top 10 pick bust for the giants since Ereck Flowers. Flowers atleast has had his attitude changed, and he's actually turning into a decent Oline player and with a move to RT he would be better. Let's not go all Ike Hilliard here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Flowers atleast has had his attitude changed, and he's actually turning into a decent Oline player and with a move to RT he would be better. Let's not go all Ike Hilliard here. LOL! That's a pretty good comparison in that both are okay players, not total wash outs, but didn't live up to their draft position. Of course the difference is that Hilliard was way over drafted, while Flowers has underachieved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Flowers atleast has had his attitude changed, and he's actually turning into a decent Oline player and with a move to RT he would be better. Let's not go all Ike Hilliard here. When was this attitude change? Probably a combination of Flowers playing slightly better and everyone around him being worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 When was this attitude change? Probably a combination of Flowers playing slightly better and everyone around him being worse. I haven't read anything about him going ape shit on coaches this year, or last. Plus he did stay all offseason and trained. I mean no news is good news. Plus we arent reading tweets about how he lies about teammates like one Mr.Apple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightFire Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Apple at it again...pointing fingers and throwing DRC under the bus. https://twitter.com/DDuggan21/status/942513937517633541 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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