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#26 Nas

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Posted 11 October 2018 - 01:08 PM

"You are what your record says you are." Bill Parcells

 

Yep... and I even recall when the reporters told him that his Jets lost by 3 points or less x number of times and he said that's how most games are decided.    However what I'm trying to point out is we're not far off from turning this around... Tonight's game is a must win.



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Posted 11 October 2018 - 01:14 PM

Its amazing how this team could have easily been a 4-1 team...

 

which team are we talking about again? Can't be the Giants. 



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Posted 11 October 2018 - 01:15 PM

We lose by 2 with a 72 yard field goal as time runs out. 



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Posted 11 October 2018 - 03:13 PM

"You are what your record says you are." Bill Parcells

 

I have three free months of Sirius XM so I've been listening to the NFL channel.  Pat Kirwin seems to be surprisingly honest with the state of the league. 

 

The other day, the topic is "what's wrong with the Eagles" and he says, "Some people say 'Super Bowl Hangover' but I'm not sure you can really measure that so I don't put stock into it.  But what you can measure is their games last year and what made them get into the playoffs or the Super Bowl.  With most teams, there's 2, 3, 5 games where they had a pivotal call go their way, or they stayed mostly injury free the entire year.  That's the state of the modern NFL;  the referees and injuries."

 

Dude fucking nailed it. 



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Posted 11 October 2018 - 03:31 PM

 

I have three free months of Sirius XM so I've been listening to the NFL channel.  Pat Kirwin seems to be surprisingly honest with the state of the league. 

 

The other day, the topic is "what's wrong with the Eagles" and he says, "Some people say 'Super Bowl Hangover' but I'm not sure you can really measure that so I don't put stock into it.  But what you can measure is their games last year and what made them get into the playoffs or the Super Bowl.  With most teams, there's 2, 3, 5 games where they had a pivotal call go their way, or they stayed mostly injury free the entire year.  That's the state of the modern NFL;  the referees and injuries."

 

Dude fucking nailed it. 

 

That wasn't applicable in our last 2 SBs... The "Catch" (Tyree & Manningham) was what worked for us..



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Posted 11 October 2018 - 04:30 PM

As long as we dont count this season and last season then yeah he plays every down

 

He's played nearly every down that he's been on the field!



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Posted 11 October 2018 - 07:19 PM

 
I have three free months of Sirius XM so I've been listening to the NFL channel.  Pat Kirwin seems to be surprisingly honest with the state of the league. 
 
The other day, the topic is "what's wrong with the Eagles" and he says, "Some people say 'Super Bowl Hangover' but I'm not sure you can really measure that so I don't put stock into it.  But what you can measure is their games last year and what made them get into the playoffs or the Super Bowl.  With most teams, there's 2, 3, 5 games where they had a pivotal call go their way, or they stayed mostly injury free the entire year.  That's the state of the modern NFL;  the referees and injuries."
 
Dude fucking nailed it. 


So pretty much the NFL since it's inception or any other spots league.

weird how that works, stay healthy and don't have the refs fuck you over.

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Posted 11 October 2018 - 08:17 PM

When the giants signed vernon, they had no idea he would get hurt or did he. Everytime i see someone complaining about this i shake my head.

Guy plays hard and gets pressure. Overpaid sure. But thats market value at the time. Just like signing solder, we needed help, he was thw best available, so we got him.


For the money, he has not been a difference making player. Bad signing.

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Posted 11 October 2018 - 08:34 PM

For the money, he has not been a difference making player. Bad signing.

 

Using this logic OBJ hasnt done much since signing that contract either.

 

Or maybe contracts are based on past performances.



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Posted 11 October 2018 - 09:31 PM

 

He's played nearly every down that he's been on the field!

 

They continue to fail to grasp that fact over and over.  He has played nearly every snap of 28 games for the NY Giants :doh:



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Posted 11 October 2018 - 10:07 PM

I think you need to re-read what he said. To your point, nobody is saying he sits out too many plays when hes active

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Posted 11 October 2018 - 10:38 PM

So pretty much the NFL since it's inception or any other spots league.

weird how that works, stay healthy and don't have the refs fuck you over.


That's not the NFL since it's inception, but it is the NFL since free agency more or less. You can't draft and develop quality backups because they'll just leave to be a starter somewhere ekse.

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Posted 11 October 2018 - 11:35 PM

That's not the NFL since it's inception, but it is the NFL since free agency more or less. You can't draft and develop quality backups because they'll just leave to be a starter somewhere ekse.

 

But isnt that a good thing?

 

We no longer have teams that just dominate an entire generation because they cant harvest players?

 

Personally I'd rather have more parity than less. 



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Posted 11 October 2018 - 11:41 PM

I personally liked it when team building and skill determined games, not injuries and officials, but I understand why someone would like it the other way. It's kind of nice that a team can turn it around in two years but it seems like it means a lot less. For all the talk of the Patriots being the greatest team of all time and whatnot I don't think they'd have even stood a chance against the Buddy Ryan Eagles.

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Posted 11 October 2018 - 11:54 PM

I think you need to re-read what he said. To your point, nobody is saying he sits out too many plays when hes active


I'm following along just fine, I'm in agreement. I see a lot of complaining about a player who has missed a few games. Get a rotation going, keep Vernon fresh to play four quarters effectively...less downtime with injuries.

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Posted 12 October 2018 - 12:42 AM

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