Eli Manning still a long way from learning Giants' West Coast offense, says Cardinals coach Bruce Arians

[Nas]

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/eli-manning-long-learning-west-coast-offense-cardinals-coach-bruce-arians-article-1.1935312

 

 

Eli Manning struggled to grasp the Giants' new West Coast offense in the preseason and he looked dreadful in Monday night's blowout loss in Detroit.

And there's a good chance that things aren't going to change anytime soon, if the Arizona Cardinals' offensive guru of a coach, Bruce Arians, is right. On Thursday, the Cards' second-year coach said it can take as much as a half a season to reprogram a veteran QB in a new system. And Arians knows a thing or two about QB brainwashing; he spent last year teaching Carson Palmer his vertical system.

"I did this with Carson Palmer last year," Arians said. "He had been in the same system pretty much nine years and he has ideas, then you are trying to re-program. It is much easier getting a rookie and brainwashing him than it is to take a veteran and change him totally into a new system.

 

"I try to never judge a quarterback in a new offense until Week 8."

 

Manning has been in the new Ben McAdoo offense ever since the spring, but it hasn't shown. He struggled to complete simple passes to receivers in the preseason, with his targets often not even turning around to catch the ball, and on Monday night in Detroit, he routinely looked tentative and unsure, throwing two interceptions and never running the system with authority.

Arians said Palmer didn't start to understand his new vertical attack until Week 8. But things changed swiftly after that. The Cardinals went 4-4 to start the year but went 6-2 over their last eight games.

To Arians, the biggest thing was that Palmer played with better authority, anticipating receivers' positions instead of waiting on them. Thing is, it took eight nightmarish weeks for that to happen.

"It was Week 8 for us last year," Arians said of when things changed. "Then, all of a sudden, you could see the guys around him start to get it and play faster and play better.

"Instead of waiting to see a guy come open, he was throwing guys open. When you are waiting to see a guy come open, you are going to throw interceptions because your eyes are there too soon and too long. When you can throw the ball on time, trust the receiver is going to be there, everything happens a second or a second-and-a-half faster, and that is a lot of time when you are talking about the passing game."

The Giants can only hope that change comes swiftly.

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[Treehugger]

Can't bring myself to put money on it, but they have the Cards as underdogs in this one for some reason.

[Herc]

Can't bring myself to put money on it, but they have the Cards as underdogs in this one for some reason.

 

interesting. i saw it get as low as arizona -1 on yahoo yesterday but now it's 2. my guy has it arizona -2.5 and at -115 too

[Sephiroth]

We have a shot in this one. Both our team and theirs have good defenses. If we can keep the score 14-10 or something similar, I think we can get a victory.

[gmenroc]

Last I saw, Cards were favored by 2.5 points...add in the 3 points they automatically give home teams and it's really a 5.5 point win they're looking at.

 

As for the offense, we're going to have to wait and see, but if the offensive line doesn't get it's act together...it doesn't much matter.

[Herc]

they did a good job against a great offense last week. keenan allen couldn't get open, i don't see how our schlubs will. they are historically bad against TE's too so i bet donnell leads the team in yards again lol

[DayneForNoGain]

Eli Manning still a long way from learning all 50 state capitals, says third grade teacher Elsie Graham.

[Storm]

Oops wrong thread.