Gman329 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 In a dysfunctional offense, the guy holding the ball, trying to make plays, will always look the worst. Things would not have looked much, if any, differently with another QB. Give him an OL that can block, receivers who can get open (and catch the ball) and you'd be amazed how much better Eli suddenly gets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 agreed. every single one of our offensive problems dating back to week 1 of last year can be traced back to the o-line. if you aren't a mobile qb then even the great ones suck under a ton of durress. it's why wilson and luck still played well with crap o-lines and it's why we saw peyton get demolished in the supebowl last year and why we did what we did to brady in the superbowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Yeah, the offensive line plays into it quite a bit, as do the receivers not being where they're supposed to be...but it doesn't excuse the turnovers. It doesn't excuse the inaccurate throws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Yeah, I'm not giving up on him yet. He's done too many great things in mediocre situations... if the pass protection can just be average, I think we'll see him play the way we expect. I'm more concerned that they're asking a guy who is special on the intermediate to deep throws to play a long hand off game; the touch on the short throws is the one area that he's never been good at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK-Giantsfan Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Eli doesnt suck .....yet......but he is in decline for sure . Some of his accuracy appears to have gone ....and some of his decision making is down right embarassing. Im fed up with his bloody excuses in press conferences too .....same old drivel. Time to draft our next franchise QB perhaps .....Nassib is not the answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Eli doesnt suck .....yet......but he is in decline for sure . Some of his accuracy appears to have gone ....and some of his decision making is down right embarassing. Im fed up with his bloody excuses in press conferences too .....same old drivel. Time to draft our next franchise QB perhaps .....Nassib is not the answer We certainly don't know that for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue25 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 I think Nassib is. Especially if we stick with the WCO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK-Giantsfan Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 three or four weeks ago ....most of us on this board were not even sure that Nassib would make the 53 man roster .............let alone be the next Messiah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 three or four weeks ago ....most of us on this board were not even sure that Nassib would make the 53 man roster .............let alone be the next Messiah Pre-Preseason I may have been his biggest or only supporter, and now it feels like I'm one of the only Eli supporters. (I know I'm not, but it can feel that way with all the elibashing.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 three or four weeks ago ....most of us on this board were not even sure that Nassib would make the 53 man roster .............let alone be the next Messiah Well he's no Jesse Palmer but he's at least shown he's not the flaming wreck we once thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 He plays five tech DEWhat language are you speaking?;? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 three or four weeks ago ....most of us on this board were not even sure that Nassib would make the 53 man roster .............let alone be the next Messiah Did you watch any of preseason, dude? Nassib played leaps and bounds above Eli in this offense and led 2 or 3 game winning drives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allstarjim Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Did you watch any of preseason, dude? Nassib played leaps and bounds above Eli in this offense and led 2 or 3 game winning drives. It's preseason man. And not against a lot of first teamers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Eli doesnt suck .....yet......but he is in decline for sure . Some of his accuracy appears to have gone ....and some of his decision making is down right embarassing. Im fed up with his bloody excuses in press conferences too .....same old drivel. Time to draft our next franchise QB perhaps .....Nassib is not the answer I think his accuracy is the same. He lacks the playmakers who used to bail him out. I'd say he's pretty lost at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 We've seen him throw high and behind crossing receivers for years; to Nicks (He's lazy!), to Randle (He's out of position!) and last week to Donnell (He's...a fucking massive target.) The shitty OLine doesn't help any but a lot of those throws were pressure-free. Of most concern to me are the uncatchable corner endzone passes that used to be his bread and butter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue25 Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 I think his accuracy is the same. He lacks the playmakers who used to bail him out. I'd say he's pretty lost at this point. Exactly. It was never there, he had Burress(6'5) Toomer(6'3) and both could out muscle defenders for the ball. This hit a receiver in stride on a short slant is never going to work with Eli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue25 Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 It's preseason man. And not against a lot of first teamers. He ran the WCO at 'Cuse under Hackett. He's way more accurate and a much better system fit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightFire Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 We've seen him throw high and behind crossing receivers for years; to Nicks (He's lazy!), to Randle (He's out of position!) and last week to Donnell (He's...a fucking massive target.) The shitty OLine doesn't help any but a lot of those throws were pressure-free. Of most concern to me are the uncatchable corner endzone passes that used to be his bread and butter. This is why the I agree with Gilbride's assessment that was posted on here a few weeks ago. This whole McAdoo experiment seems like a square peg with round hole. I hope Eli gets better because as a Giants fan I want the team to succeed but this is one of the few seasons where I agree with the gloom crowd. This is not looking good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 We've had a lot of success with Eli, and I'd never count him out. I think he shakes out the cobwebs and starts looking like the QB we expected by October. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 It's preseason man. And not against a lot of first teamers. Yet he understands what's going on. Eli is lost as fuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Exactly. It was never there, he had Burress(6'5) Toomer(6'3) and both could out muscle defenders for the ball. This hit a receiver in stride on a short slant is never going to work with EliBrandon Marshall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Brandon Marshall? You were so right about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 You were so right about him. Thats all I've been waiting to hear. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BronxRik Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Haha, I remember that. Even the pic of the Giants jet that supposedly carried him to Jersey. Good times back then, good times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DayneForNoGain Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Well he's no Jesse Palmer but he's at least shown he's not the flaming wreck we once thought. Wonder if that fat guy is still available....Lorenzen, he was tearing it up in AFL2 before his leg exploded under his massive fatness. Is it OK if I hang around here and say mean things about the gints? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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