NeMesiS Posted August 1, 2018 Author Share Posted August 1, 2018 I wonder if we can slide John Greco out there? Man, we should have drafted another Tackle in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeMesiS Posted August 1, 2018 Author Share Posted August 1, 2018 Solder hasn't been much better, and the second string has been far worse still. But it's way early, the Ds usually run roughshod over the offensive side of the ball in the early going. Offense is more complicated, it takes more time. Sounds like a wild defensive scheme they've been going up against too. I can't wait to see what it looks like when it gets real. Yeah, I heard the same about Solder. Vernon has had more sacks against Solder these last 4 days, than hes entire career with the Giants. I hope its because the OLine if learning a new offense and theyre overthinking things instead of reacting instinctively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 Well solder has never been at Vernons level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 Nope, average, but steady, that is Solder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Yawn. It's early in training camp. Don't read into this stuff too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK-Giantsfan Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Im not going to worrry on Aug 2nd ......... I will start to panic by Oct 2nd if we are 0-3 and the O line is as bad as last year ( but Im quietly confident that we will have a decent Offense this season with lots of different options and weapons ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorillaNJ Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Im not going to worrry on Aug 2nd ......... I will start to panic by Oct 2nd if we are 0-3 and the O line is as bad as last year ( but Im quietly confident that we will have a decent Offense this season with lots of different options and weapons ) This 100%.... having the threat of a running game, a vertical passing attack, and the short pass to explosive players will surely help the offensive line when actual games start. These guys need a bit of time together, and with the O-line coach to really start to come together... Have to hope that coming into November they really start to get their shit going and start pushing to a playoff run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Well solder has never been at Vernons level Vernon hasn't exactly been a super star for us either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Vernon hasn't exactly been a super star for us either. He doesnt have the surface stats like sacks but he gets more hurries and hits than anybody in the league and is great against the run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeMesiS Posted August 3, 2018 Author Share Posted August 3, 2018 This 100%.... having the threat of a running game, a vertical passing attack, and the short pass to explosive players will surely help the offensive line when actual games start. These guys need a bit of time together, and with the O-line coach to really start to come together... Have to hope that coming into November they really start to get their shit going and start pushing to a playoff run. I dont think we are going to be a playoff team this year. We are making to much of a transformation on both the Offensive and Defense. Plus we have brutal first half of the season that I think we are going to have difficulties recovering from. I think best cases Scenario.... 8-8... maybe 9-7. Not enough to get us in the playoffs. Of course, I hoping Im wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 He doesnt have the surface stats like sacks but he gets more hurries and hits than anybody in the league and is great against the run I've come around on Vernon. Damn good player, and his effort is extremely consistent. I think he'll get a 12+ sack season in the right situation. Spags D wasn't the best fit for him, not without a deep rotation of competent pass rushers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 I think its just variance too. Long-term the sacks will be there. I love his toughness as well. Before last seasons ankle injury he played an ungodly number of snaps for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 I think its just variance too. Long-term the sacks will be there. I love his toughness as well. Before last seasons ankle injury he played an ungodly number of snaps for us Yeah hopefully instead of talking about depth they'll deploy that depth so that Vernon isn't out there playing over 90% of the snaps this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 Lots of reports in camp about how Solder is looking like garbo and Flowers isnt taking to his new position well. Might be a longer season than any of us want. On the bright side Herny and Ohmamamia are looking like two rocks at guard for us, Hernandez is showing of his strength and nastiness (might have to reel it in though in real games) and Omameh is turning into a bit of a surprise out there with how he's playing. Granted you don't really know what the Oline looks like until they start hitting at full speed but there's somethings to worry about at the tackle positions that are going to be more of a headache as the season goes on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Big shake ups on the second team line today, Jones is LG, Greco is C, and John Jerry is RT. Hope this is just about getting guys experience..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeMesiS Posted August 8, 2018 Author Share Posted August 8, 2018 Big shake ups on the second team line today, Jones is LG, Greco is C, and John Jerry is RT. Hope this is just about getting guys experience..... Saw that... kinda scared of our dept at the OLINE! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 Saw that... kinda scared of our dept at the OLINE! Best depth we've had in a long time. It'll work out so long as the tackles stay healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 I think the idea that the line is "fixed" may be just a bit premature. "Improved" may be more like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 I think the idea that the line is "fixed" may be just a bit premature. "Improved" may be more like it. Improved...from a D to a C - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK-Giantsfan Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 Improved...from a D to a C - If Beckham , Shep , Engram and Saquon stay healthy ........ C might just be good enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorillaNJ Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 If Beckham , Shep , Engram and Saquon stay healthy ........ C might just be good enough If they stay healthy, it will turn a C line into a B line.... defenses are going to struggle to cover all those weapons. Nothing slows down a pass rush like a team that has the potential to screen or hit deep passes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 If they stay healthy, it will turn a C line into a B line.... defenses are going to struggle to cover all those weapons. Nothing slows down a pass rush like a team that has the potential to screen or hit deep passes We'll find out soon enough against the best defensive team in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK-Giantsfan Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 If they stay healthy, it will turn a C line into a B line.... defenses are going to struggle to cover all those weapons. Nothing slows down a pass rush like a team that has the potential to screen or hit deep passes Yep , totally agree Grill ( Can you imagine how dangerous Engram could be this year if Ds are totally preoccupied with covering the combined genius of Saquon and Beckham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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