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That's not the argument. Can you deny Ibanez will easily be in the top 5 for MVP voting by the end of the year? We could have had that on our team, but that went to our biggest rival.

Jason Bay could provide some stability in the corner outfield spot. I'm not sure what his asking price will be and I have a feeling Boston will overwhelm him before he can hit the market. But he'd be the most reasonable fit.

I think Ibanez would have been realistic had we not had the false sense of comfort in Murphy playing LF. Him going to the Phils was a huge shift in the balance of power. We've been in a year long platoon in left while the Phillies might have the league's MVP there.

A few bitter recollections about the game: The non roughing call on Polamalu when he threw Barber when he was way out of bounds. The roughing call the Giants were on the wrong side on third or forth down, I forgot which. Pitt didn't punt the whole game right? Amani's non PI call.

If we could attain Reyes' heir in the trade would you consider it then? Think about it. A Future ace. A solid SS. And a future 1b slugger. Would you do that? It'd be tough to at least not consider.

It's the wind currents. Look at how many balls hit softly are landing in the first or second rows of of the stands. You could be partially right but it's obvious the ball is carrying at an unnatural rate.

I saw it. I can't believe how bad it actually has gotten. Right on the day after the Phils rack up 22 too.

I would keep guys like Cora who could be valuable if we resurrect in 2010. Sheff is really the only guy I would trade that would warrant at least something. I don't know what we're going to do this off-season. Our farm sucks, so we need to start stockpiling our draft picks. By doing that we can't keep signing prized free agents. I just want this team to go in a direction. And yes, I would listen to offers for Reyes. I wouldn't look to trade him but if we can get some serious value in return Omar should consider it.

Agreed. The only farmhand we got lucky with was Omir and that probably won't even last the rest of the year. Awful. At least you had '86

That's a bad comparison Jim. Maddon is living in manager heaven right now. A small market, some vets, LOTS of young talent that can develop without being in the glare of a harsh media. If Joe was in this situation he'd look a lot worse right now. BTW if it wasn't for a recent winning streak the Mets and Rays would be around the same record, so with a lot more talent and less pressure Maddon really isn't doing that good a job as you think. I'm just tired of talking about the manager. It's up to the players.

Seattle? They're quietly at .500

The only deal I'd shed an eye to is the one the A's are allegedly looking for in Holliday. A proven OF and a prospect like the Teixera deal last year. Beane is supposedly a fan of Church and maybe would like a Dillon Gee type. That's really the only headline deal I'd consider at this point. Otherwise I'm with you, I don't want to mortgage the future either.

The second he feels he can pitch again he should be thrown in the pen. His frame is too light to be a 180+ innings guy a year. He does have swing and miss stuff and does know what he's doing. I think he could be valuable in the pen. At least more so than 4 months of SP during the regular season.

Chris Perez was the Cards top pitching prospect and that's what it took to get him. Would you have traded Parnell and another prospect for him?

We're gonna have to start aquiring some fresh arms in the pen. Especially a lefty.