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#1 NeMesiS

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Posted 12 August 2017 - 06:04 PM

Well they looked like shit again... this team is going to struggle bid time

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Posted 12 August 2017 - 06:25 PM

Didn't get to see the game yet, but I've read mixed reviews on the OL.

Most significant criticism seems to target Richburg.

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Posted 12 August 2017 - 07:08 PM

It's a little early for this

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Posted 12 August 2017 - 11:41 PM

I'm not concerned yet or encouraged for the season.

 

Takes more time for a bad offensive line to get clicking than a great defensive line.  Best we can hope for is health and improvement over the next three games then re-evaluate.



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Posted 13 August 2017 - 10:27 AM

We arent event jumping the gun - this is more like leaping. The OL has been working its ass off from what I hear and playing against the Giants DL will do just that. I think they should be fine. The Evan Engram mix should help a lot on the short 2 step throws.



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Posted 13 August 2017 - 11:02 PM

When you have a terrible OL and do nothing to improve it, there's a great chance your line will be terrible again.

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Posted 13 August 2017 - 11:15 PM

The run blocking is abysmal...pass blocking mediocre at best. In my opinion, there's a good chance Flowers loses his starting spot. His footwork and hand placement still looked awful.

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 05:06 AM

The run blocking is abysmal...pass blocking mediocre at best. In my opinion, there's a good chance Flowers loses his starting spot. His footwork and hand placement still looked awful.

 

To who?  Justin Pugh in a contract year?



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Posted 14 August 2017 - 12:12 PM

We arent event jumping the gun - this is more like leaping. The OL has been working its ass off from what I hear and playing against the Giants DL will do just that. I think they should be fine. The Evan Engram mix should help a lot on the short 2 step throws.

 

Maybe the Steelers defense is better than ours?



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Posted 14 August 2017 - 12:55 PM

To who?  Justin Pugh in a contract year?


Pisnataway or WTF his name is. Wheeler was getting 1st team reps in practice too. Granted, I don't think either is an improvement...

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 01:34 PM

 
Maybe the Steelers defense is better than ours?


Imagine?

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 03:02 PM

And Bob Papa and Carl Banks don't help the cause when they've lowered the standard to "Well Flowers at least got his hands on the defender that time." LOL 



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Posted 14 August 2017 - 03:03 PM

Should we seriously consider bumping Pugh out to LT, and either moving Flowers or Fluker to guard?

 

And I don't understand how Bobby Hart is in the NFL.



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Posted 15 August 2017 - 04:40 AM

Apparently another bad day of practice.

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Posted 15 August 2017 - 10:42 AM

Have no idea what happened to Richburg and how he regressed from becoming best Center in the NFL to garbage. He's in the final year of his rookie deal and if he continues to regress Center becomes a big need

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Posted 15 August 2017 - 01:42 PM

Have no idea what happened to Richburg and how he regressed from becoming best Center in the NFL to garbage. He's in the final year of his rookie deal and if he continues to regress Center becomes a big need

 

It was one game and the first quarter of the first game of the preseason at that.



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Posted 15 August 2017 - 01:54 PM

You guys are being kinda crazy. They barely played. The tackles gave up 0 qb hurries in the limited time they did play, and we had a few successful runs on the right side. What more do you want? It's too small of a sample size either way but if anything they looked better than usual

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Posted 15 August 2017 - 02:34 PM

Have no idea what happened to Richburg and how he regressed from becoming best Center in the NFL to garbage. He's in the final year of his rookie deal and if he continues to regress Center becomes a big need

 

LOL...Richburg was always average at best. A C+ center at best.



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Posted 15 August 2017 - 02:39 PM

As I posted towards the end of last year, be prepared again for this giants offense this season:

 

Typical sequence of Giants drives

1 - Perkins dive for 2 yards. Perkins draw for -1. Pass incomplete. 3 and out.

2 - Perkins dive for 2 yards. Offensive holding. 2nd and 18. Pass to Engram or Shepard for 7 yard gain. 3rd and 11; clearly way too impossible, so give up draw to Perkins for 3 yards. 3 and out.

3 - Perkins dive for 2 yards. Next play, sack caused by Flowers not touching a player or Richburg/Hart getting bowled over. 3rd and 18; give up draw or 5 yard pass. 3 and out.

4 - False start (Flowers or Hart). 1st and 15. 10 yard pass to Marshall or Vareen. 2nd and 5, pass or run play behind the line of scrimmage for -2. 3rd and 7; pass play, offensive line doesn't block, Eli under heavy pressure throws it away. 3 and out.

5 - 11 Yard run to Perkins. 60 yard catch and TD run by Beckham.

Repeat sequence, whereby the next time around, #5 is Odell not scoring, Giants near red zone threatening, Eli is under heavy pressure and as a result fumbles or throws an INT



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Posted 15 August 2017 - 02:52 PM

Just keep people healthy for the start.



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Posted 15 August 2017 - 03:18 PM

i'm desperately hoping that this "mediocre" O Line will be helped by having some half decent TE's ( Ellison , Engram , Adams,  LaCosse )

 

Donnell and Tye were next to useless last year.



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Posted 15 August 2017 - 04:16 PM

Tye is gone unless he's a big special teams contributor. There's no way he can be ahead of Adams at this point

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Posted 15 August 2017 - 08:11 PM

He had a few good catches last year, you guys are rough on people in here. but the spot has been really bad the last few years.



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Posted 15 August 2017 - 09:13 PM

He had a few good catches last year, you guys are rough on people in here. but the spot has been really bad the last few years.

 

Yeah I can't wait to see Engram running the same shit routes Tye did last season and have the same results.



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Posted 15 August 2017 - 10:11 PM

He had a few good catches last year, you guys are rough on people in here. but the spot has been really bad the last few years.


I'm not really shitting on him. I just think we're deep at the position now and something's gotta give




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