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#1 Drizzle

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Posted 10 September 2018 - 02:42 AM

What the fuck is the point in having some scrub return kicks and punts? Put Beckham back there and have him wave fair catch or kneel it every time. The Giants have no chance of ever flipping field position or taking one to the house and theyve never been one of those teams. So why the fuck put a one week waiver wire pickup back there to seal a game in the opponents favor?

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Posted 10 September 2018 - 02:43 AM

Or, on the other side, have Barkley or Beckham return punts and kicks for real. It works for Tyreek Hill and the Chiefs.

Cody Lattimer and the dude who fumbled blow ass. Neither belong on an NFL team.

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Posted 10 September 2018 - 02:44 AM

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Posted 10 September 2018 - 02:45 AM

Jason Seahorn


That was preseason and like 20 years ago. Are the Giants the only team who are so fearful and hesitant that they literally would rather throw games away? 50 seconds left, put in Odell.

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Posted 10 September 2018 - 01:35 PM

That was preseason and like 20 years ago. Are the Giants the only team who are so fearful and hesitant that they literally would rather throw games away? 50 seconds left, put in Odell.

you're right!



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Posted 10 September 2018 - 01:40 PM

That was preseason and like 20 years ago. Are the Giants the only team who are so fearful and hesitant that they literally would rather throw games away? 50 seconds left, put in Odell.

 

I agree, it that situation you need your best runner back there.



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Posted 10 September 2018 - 01:44 PM

Jason Seahorn

 

Exactly.

 

No need making a guy you just mortgaged the franchise on cannon fodder.

 

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Posted 10 September 2018 - 01:45 PM

I didn't see it on my stream but did Coughlin get some kind of 'Welcome Home' recognition at the stadium? I hope so.



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Posted 10 September 2018 - 02:17 PM

 

Exactly.

 

No need making a guy you just mortgaged the franchise on cannon fodder.

 

C. Wagon

 

That is my initial thought too...  but 4th quarter game in the balance I would much rather one of our dudes with the ball in their hands than some schmuck we signed off of waiver wire last week.   



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Posted 10 September 2018 - 02:22 PM

That was preseason and like 20 years ago. Are the Giants the only team who are so fearful and hesitant that they literally would rather throw games away? 50 seconds left, put in Odell.

absolutely...odell or Barkley should have been back there...50 seconds left..you need a home run..amd your home run hitters are on the bench.

Awful coaching

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Posted 10 September 2018 - 02:56 PM

Then when one those two guys get a career altering injury you will bitch and moan.

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Posted 10 September 2018 - 03:00 PM

That was preseason and like 20 years ago. Are the Giants the only team who are so fearful and hesitant that they literally would rather throw games away? 50 seconds left, put in Odell.

 

The return function is probably the most dangerous play in football... everyone is hurling at you full speed... so no.  No Beckam and no Barkley.  

 

The answer is probably somewhere in between.. you need a guy who can fucking catch and return... not that complicated. 



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Posted 10 September 2018 - 03:40 PM

Aka

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Posted 10 September 2018 - 03:50 PM

 

That is my initial thought too...  but 4th quarter game in the balance I would much rather one of our dudes with the ball in their hands than some schmuck we signed off of waiver wire last week.   

 

I get that...but there is a whole world between Odel ...and a guy that is one step up from Practice Squad.

 

There has to be professional punt returners out there....a specialty guy like a long snapper. The don't have to be Devon Hester (be nice)....just some some competent and consistent guy that will make the right call on the catch....then make the catch...and give you a good 7 yard average. 

 

Other than Dion Sanders...and Gale Sayers...I am having a hard time thinking of Super Stars that were turn out put returners too?

 

I am sure there are more...but those are the two that come to mind.

 

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Posted 10 September 2018 - 03:57 PM

Then when one those two guys get a career altering injury you will bitch and moan.


Actually, I prefer that the dudes we pay millions are used in as many situations as possible to actually win games.

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Posted 10 September 2018 - 03:59 PM

 
I get that...but there is a whole world between Odel ...and a guy that is one step up from Practice Squad.
 
There has to be professional punt returners out there....a specialty guy like a long snapper. The don't have to be Devon Hester (be nice)....just some some competent and consistent guy that will make the right call on the catch....then make the catch...and give you a good 7 yard average. 
 
Other than Dion Sanders...and Gale Sayers...I am having a hard time thinking of Super Stars that were turn out put returners too?
 
I am sure there are more...but those are the two that come to mind.
 
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Beckham and Barkley were both game changers on punt returns in college. Its real simple. Use guys that can win games for you or use scrubs who fumble your chances away. KC puts Tyreek Hill and Kareem Hunt all over the field and it wins them games.

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Posted 10 September 2018 - 04:04 PM

Actually, I prefer that the dudes we pay millions are used in as many situations as possible to actually win games.


Until there hurt. Then you cry.

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Posted 10 September 2018 - 04:09 PM

 

 

 

Other than Dion Sanders...and Gale Sayers...I am having a hard time thinking of Super Stars that were turn out put returners too?

 

I am sure there are more...but those are the two that come to mind.

 

C. Wagon

 

 

Tiki Barber and Dave Meggett were both awesome for us in that role, though Tiki eventually became a full-time back. 



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Posted 10 September 2018 - 04:11 PM

Actually, I prefer that the dudes we pay millions are used in as many situations as possible to actually win games.

 

I am not sure I would want to see OBJ or Barkley being the regular punt return guy...   but in this situation, down 5 with no time outs and 55 seconds left in the game...    especially when you consider the guy who they put in, was just brought onto the squad.



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Posted 10 September 2018 - 04:16 PM

Until there hurt. Then you cry.


Dude, I just said twice that I would be playing to win the game not keep players from being injured. Whats wrong with you?

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Posted 10 September 2018 - 04:43 PM

Dude, I just said twice that I would be playing to win the game not keep players from being injured. Whats wrong with you?


And you don't win games getting your best players hurt on kick returns. Obj and Barkley aren't exactly the most injury proof guys.

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Posted 10 September 2018 - 04:53 PM

And you don't win games getting your best players hurt on kick returns. Obj and Barkley aren't exactly the most injury proof guys.


Well, youre now 0-1

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Posted 10 September 2018 - 05:09 PM

What about Latimer? I know he just did kick returns in Denver but he isnt high on the wr depth chart and prob has better hands than clay

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Posted 10 September 2018 - 05:13 PM

Well, youre now 0-1


The Giants are 0-1

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Posted 10 September 2018 - 06:51 PM

The Giants are 0-1


Dealing in hypotheticals, you lose because you put the waiver wire scrub back there. I win because Im having Beckham return punts there.




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