osi724dasack Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Time to fire Macadoo... 3 points.. No targets to Marshall.. Pathetic.. Seen enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman_NYG Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 I think we got spooked when we suddenly realized in a real game how bad our OL actually was. Considering theyd practiced against our DL I thought theyd be much better than this. This is just flat out fuckall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BronxEagle Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Time to fire Macadoo... 3 points.. No targets to Marshall.. Pathetic.. Seen enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 no, seriously, Eli played scared last night. There were plays that he had time and he did not set his feet. The OL was bad, but last night wasn't on the OL. Put on film of Eli from 2011 and compare it to now --- the protection is similar, but the QB is chickenshit by comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 But but...we have like different personnel packages this year. With Rhett Ellison. That'll show em! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 And keep in mind, that was against Dallas's D, an alleged mediocre defense. Just wait till we play tougher D's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BronxEagle Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 And keep in mind, that was against Dallas's D, an alleged mediocre defense. Just wait till we play tougher D's. Like The Eagles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman_NYG Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 no, seriously, Eli played scared last night. There were plays that he had time and he did not set his feet. The OL was bad, but last night wasn't on the OL. Put on film of Eli from 2011 and compare it to now --- the protection is similar, but the QB is chickenshit by comparison. A lot of it was on the OL. The way it started the spooking began. Eli at 36 is trying to not get injured and be the best man behind center - Eli in 2011 was ready to take risks. Thats the difference. Eli will remain spooked until the line can show it can protect. And frankly I think ODB is our offense and without him we were clueless. Eli didnt know who to look for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman_NYG Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 The sack when we were in the redzone was the fucking mind breaker - the OL really should have held atleast then for a sec more. They rushed 4! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 A lot of it was on the OL. The way it started the spooking began. Eli at 36 is trying to not get injured and be the best man behind center - Eli in 2011 was ready to take risks. Thats the difference. Eli will remain spooked until the line can show it can protect. And frankly I think ODB is our offense and without him we were clueless. Eli didnt know who to look for well shit, I hope you're wrong, because yes it started ugly up front, but everybody gets sacked sometimes. If that's where Eli is in his career, one hit and he goes into a shell, well then that just means he's done. Its early though, weird shit happens week 1. But Eli was unsettled in the pocket last night, he was seeing the pass rushers, not the play unfolding downfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 And keep in mind, that was against Dallas's D, an alleged mediocre defense. Just wait till we play tougher D's. I said that in the game thread. If this is how we play against the Dallas defense, what's going to happen when we start playing good ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Or, maybe the Dallas defense isn't that bad. They do appear to be getting good linebacker play out of Sean Lee and Jaylon Smith. Speaking of good linebacker play, 14 tackles for BJ Goodson last night. There was nary a play that he wasn't around the ball. That guy is a keeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Their D is improving for sure. Still, Eli thinks he's about to get hit when he isn't and he seems to have a few games like that every year--the Vikings game last year immediately comes to mind. I said it at the time and I'll say it again, whitworth should've been our day 1 signing, not Marshall. See rams offensive line yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Their D is improving for sure. Still, Eli thinks he's about to get hit when he isn't and he seems to have a few games like that every year--the Vikings game last year immediately comes to mind. I said it at the time and I'll say it again, whitworth should've been our day 1 signing, not Marshall. See rams offensive line yesterday Marshall has often had big games and disappear games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Time to fire Macadoo... 3 points.. No targets to Marshall.. Pathetic.. Seen enough How many times was BM open? Probably the only play was late in the 4th when Eli missed him badly in a panic throw... other than that and from what little was shown BM wasn't getting open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeGL Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 That was terrible, I'm just baffled by how terrible the offensive line is, it cannot get worse than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BronxEagle Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 I didn't understand the Brandon Marshall signing... still don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 I didn't understand the Brandon Marshall signing... still don't. It only makes sense if we had/have a decent line, which of course we don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Like The Eagles. Yep. Nice win yesterday. Wentz looks good. That one play to Algohlor looked like Big Ben. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Or, maybe the Dallas defense isn't that bad. They do appear to be getting good linebacker play out of Sean Lee and Jaylon Smith. Speaking of good linebacker play, 14 tackles for BJ Goodson last night. There was nary a play that he wasn't around the ball. That guy is a keeper. I wasn't high on Goodson and have been really pissed that we haven't drafted or signed a decent linebacker for the past ten years, but I have to admit early returns sure look good. It's about time we hit on a late-round LB. Like I've always said... the 26th time's the charm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 I thought Collinsworth made a good point yesterday. Why not at least suit up Odell, put him in on passing downs only as a decoy, and have him run straight deep routes, just to keep the defense off balance and free up other guys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 I thought Collinsworth made a good point yesterday. Why not at least suit up Odell, put him in on passing downs only as a decoy, and have him run straight deep routes, just to keep the defense off balance and free up other guys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 I can hear his press conference already: "We don't need ODB to free up our other players on their 2 yard out routes." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 His stats were literally cut in half last year. From 109/1500/14 to 59/788/3 on the same team with the same quarterback and with Matt forte added to the team. I can buy that even if he's declining he's a nice piece to have and we needed a decent outside receiver, but there's no way that should take priority over signing o-linemen--and there WERE offensive linemen available to help this team. Whitworth is an all-pro level tackle who we wouldn't have had to give a lengthy contract to because he's 35. His deal is 3 years 33 mil 5 mil guaranteed, he comes off the books the same time as Eli, and if he loses it by year three you cut him and save 11 mil in his last year. Meanwhile the o-line is salvaged for a two year window that this team has the talent to compete for a Super Bowl while Eli is 36 and 37. I'd rather have that and Roger Lewis on the outside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 I'm not into the doom and gloom or over-analyzing based on week 1, but our issues go back 8 games into last season. Opposing defenses in this league smell blood. They know they can bully around this offensive line and give Eli happy feet. I think we're going to be challenged to put up 20 points per game this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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